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Lindsay Morris: The book has been a long time coming. I'm very much a part of the community and it's been a personal project. For the parents who attend the camp they agree that the first step to empowerment is visibility. I started photographing the kids at camp for the first two years just as a service to the camp community so that they wouldn't have to be distracted by taking pictures. What we started to see was a beautiful story was beginning to be illustrated through the photographs and they suggested that we think about a book.Can you explain the term "gender-fluid"?
We use so many different terms. A lot of the kids don't like referring to themselves as boys. Some of them will be gay, some of them will be trans, and some of them will be somewhere in between. "Gender-creative," "gender-independent," "gender-variant," "gender non-conforming"… essentially I would define it as children who do not conform to society's expectations of what a typical boy or girl should be. I think we're just beginning to form a vocabulary.Why is the summer camp so important to some families? Why is it so positive that the camp exists?
It's really just a very safe place for them where they don't have to look over their shoulders and where they're experiencing 100 percent support from their family members and siblings. It's very important to us that the siblings attend camp so that they can see their brother or sister being celebrated. It's not all biological boys at camp, there are a few girls.
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I think the biggest concern is bullying at school. Often the children might be excluded from activities—especially sleepovers and birthday parties—because the other parents aren't really open to having a child who is atypical in their midst. That's why the parents of these kids have become the most incredible advocates. They just hope to normalize gender non-conformity.What sort of mental-health problems and social problems do gender non-conforming boys tend to face?
A lot of these kids experience low-grade bullying. It creates a lot of stress and anxiety about going to school or being in public places because of the fear of being excluded. However, if the school is very progressive and keeps an open dialogue, it can be great. Schools have such power to normalize gender non-conformity; some choose to and some really push against it.Do you feel society has come a long way with in their attitudes towards gender non-conforming people?
Absolutely, every day I think you see it. Especially in the past year or two, with the change in gay marriage laws, non-conforming people, and the rights of LGBT people in the work place. We're seeing laws shifting. I think we're living in a historical moment and it's happening as we speak.
Some of the kids really stand back observing and are quite shy while others jump in and it's like they've found their clan, their soul mates. The images don't really convey the wild frenzy of camp. They're more flowing and poetic while the camp is kind of a beautiful chaos. The kids are constantly changing clothes and dolls; they're like immediate kin and friends. It's very moving for the parents, most of all.
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The parents spend a lot of time together and they realize it isn't just their child. But not every parent who goes there is fully on board. It's difficult, it's a transition. If you're there you're there because you love your child, they know it's a move in the right direction. I hate to say it but a lot of the fathers—especially the fathers—come in a little bit shell shocked. This is not the little boy they anticipated raising and they're doing the best they can because they want their children to have a healthy life and a healthy mental state that comes from the support of your parents.What happens during the fashion show?
The highlight of the camp is a fashion show, so a lot of the kids really go to great lengths to create incredibly accessorized outfits. We have a red carpet, we blow their hair back, we do make up and nails. It's just like this incredible celebration. I feel like the kids leave and they are set to carry on for the whole year. We always have a rack of clothing that the kids can use. Some of the kids make their own dresses with their moms or aunties; it's a really anticipated event.Can you recall any special moments of at the camp?
One of the new campers who came two years ago brought all of the adults to tears. He's since transitioned to female but at the time he was going by his birth name. His parents had separated and his father was in complete denial, giving the mother a very hard time. When going through divorce court it can get very complicated when one parent supports a gender non-conforming child and another doesn't. The father and stepmother of this child were not allowing him to dress in the clothes that he felt comfortable in.At camp he spent a whole weekend in beautiful gowns; he dressed himself so carefully and it just meant so much to him to have four whole days of complete and utter honesty and authenticity.At the end of camp the kids are allowed to tell everyone about something that has particularly moved them. He announced in front of everyone: "I am so comfortable here and I am so comfortable in the clothes that I am wearing. I'm going to go home and I'm going to tell my dad who I really am, I'm not going to be afraid." Everybody was in tears. He has since transitioned and is an amazing, confident, and self-realized human being. That's sort of the goal of camp.Do you know if there are plans for any further gender-non conformity camps?
We hope it will inspire a lot of other camps. We just organize each year near to where the parents are living and we want to create a template for people who want to create their own camp in other parts of the country.Pick up the book here and follow Lindsay's project at youareyouproject.com