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EverGreenTea (EGT): I source from growers and producers… I was involved before this like so many others, trying not to get busted for having less than 100 plants in the backyard/garage. I can say that in the past growing or selling medical cannabis has never been a sustainable thing. I took a loss; spent money on supplies, electricity; time spent going to patients who lowball you or people who try to rip you off, the local cities and counties not authorizing your business. But with the dark net I'm actually able to run a sustainable business.BestNThaWest (BNTW): Both. I grow myself and work with local growers that have supply issues as well. I have been growing for the MMJ [medical marijuana] sector for roughly a decade.GotDank (GD): I used to grow, but I no longer do so. Growing is like having a small child. It's really a full-time job with strings attached. Being in the industry, I've made a lot of contacts with larger co-ops that supply higher volumes of medicinal cannabis. I got rid of my own product… enabling me to ditch the growing pains and move into higher volume distribution. I do not think I could do both, or at least not without bringing more people into the business and spreading out job duties. I could make a lot more money that way, but the risk and labor needed to do that is not really worth it to me.
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EGT: Yes, there are growers who cannot get the price they want in dispensaries or do not have the relationship there already. If you are a grower, you can walk into a dispensary and they will either turn you away or lowball you. Seems like the cities and counties allowing you to have a store suddenly gives you more control of the market. People will walk into your business and you can lowball them, then charge customers even more, but then again it's business and the cities and counties have artificially affected the market by not allowing such businesses, and so people are either lucky to be one of the few [who are] licensed, or [dispensary operators] simply open a store without a permit.GD: The competition is really high in the California medicinal dispensary market, and you are always dealing with someone who is trying to maximize their profits for their business, so they are always looking to lowball you on top of the already competitive environment that have made prices drop over 200 percent in the past few years. Pounds used to sell for $4,000 to $5,000 to a dispensary until about 2012. Then things started dropping fast, and now you are lucky to get $3,000 for a very high-quality product, $2,000 for a decent product, and you probably cannot move anything that falls below those two categories for above your cost.
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EGT: I would be happy to become "licensed" to run a cannabis business in California… For 18 years there's never been such a thing at the state level, only tolerance of "nonprofit patient collectives" which somehow also means for-profit dispensaries, growers, and producers of cannabis products. Now we are beginning to see the more commercial products, but without true legal recognition. It seems like the large companies may either set up as a "nonprofit" or have two companies, one for profit and the other one as the "nonprofit collective."I think back a few years ago, the law was more unclear. Everyone thought it was funny that all the perfectly healthy young people growing cannabis were medical cannabis patients. You were supposed to wait until someone had cancer, and then they could grow on their own and wait five months to harvest or have a "caregiver" grow for them. Or just go to the dispensaries which carried your medicine already, but how did they get it? The California laws were meant to let you get away with breaking federal law, as long as you didn't break it too much, but, again, it's kind of a catch-22 problem—always a question of a person wanting to do enough business to make it worth their time to even do it, and not getting busted.
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