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Hock Talk

Smith Street has served as a popular place to score smack and gamble illegally. Often these two activities cause people to lose money very quickly, so Collingwood is a natural place for a neighborhood pawnshop.

INTERVIEW BY ROYCE AKERS

PHOTOS BY BRIONY WRIGHT

As a staunchly working-class suburb, Collingwood has had its fair share of shitty times. Smith Street, the main drag, has served as a popular place to score smack and gamble illegally for decades. Often these two activities cause people to lose money very quickly, so Collingwood is as natural a place as any for a neighborhood pawnshop. Paul Sullivan runs $ulivan’$, the preferred depot for Smith Street’s down-and-out peddlers.

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Vice: Have you noticed a change in your business since the economy has slowed down?

Paul Sullivan:

Well, I’m meeting someone almost every day who hasn’t pawned anything before. People who have lost their jobs.

Who are your regulars?

About 70 percent of my customers are on a fixed income through a government pension. For those people, it doesn’t matter if we go into the deepest depression imaginable.

I understand Australian pawnshops used to be a lot different. How so?

Well, in the 50s there was a group in Melbourne called Australasian pawnbrokers. But after Vietnam everyone came home and no one needed them anymore. They all shut down.

Is there a difference between what people sold back then and what they sell nowadays?

Someone told me the old pawn stores used to smell terrible because of all the shoes people would take in. Another old lady told me about how her mother used to send her to the pawn store with their used towels and sheets.

Gross!

What changed everything was the opening of the Crown Casino in 1992. They were so sneaky. They had a rewards card that allowed people to build up points so they could get TVs, toasters, and other electronics. But the gamblers already had that stuff. So it all came to the pawnshops. I went from serving pensioners and addicts to guys in cars nicer than mine. They’d come in and say, “How do I do this?”

What are customers bringing in now?

A lot of stuff I don’t even want. I generally deal in jewelry and musical instruments because they’re the only things that hold their value.

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So the recession is not much of a help to your business?

If it drags on, you might see a few more people ending up in pawnshops.

INTERVIEW BY TOMO KOSUGA

PHOTOS COURTESY OF GINZO

TRANSLATED BY JOHN TYSOME

Ginzo is the largest chain of pawnshops in Japan, with 70 employees in stores in Tokyo and Osaka. It handles over 20,000 trades annually and offers free assessment 24 hours a day for all the sad, sad nightcrawlers. Stores in the Shinjuku area attract a unique clientele: hostesses and prostitutes who come to sell designer bags that they receive as presents. We had a word with manager Kiyoshi Kojima about real-estate desperation and the hooker-handbag phenomenon.

Vice: Have your customers changed since the slump in the world economy?

Kiyoshi Kojima:

Since the financial crisis began we have seen a large increase in goods received as security on money loans for realtors and developers. The number of people bringing in shoes, watches, and suits has also increased. There are more modest customers as well. The number of people with small items for us to hold temporarily so they can go out drinking or on a date is now very large.

What are some of the more peculiar things you’re seeing?

Someone came in with a futon, shouting, “Please, just take it!” I thought he must have been quite close to the edge. Another customer came in with a handmade cardboard championship belt and told us, “I won this in a fair fight. Please, will you buy it?”

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What about the girls who work the bars? Are the pawnshops full of designer crap that customers give them for Christmas?

That’s exactly what happens. The most interesting ones are often still in their wrapping paper. It is true that we get many more items after Christmas, but in Shinjuku even our normal-day trade is brisk. Like they say, this is the town of “sexual liaisons and unfolding love affairs.”

So slutty customers are what make Japanese pawnshops so special?

Yes. Japan is probably the only place in the world with pawnshops handling large volumes of same-season brand goods. The speed and turnover of the secondhand-goods market are unique to Japan. You would never see a place advertising “Direct Sale Secondhand Luxury Cars.” I think it’s only a matter of time till we see pawnshops that have “Authorized Secondhand Louis Vuitton Dealership” in their windows.

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