Dennis Rodman, retired NBA star and famed penis breaker, recently visited The Late Show to talk about his close friend Kim Jong-un. Donning an unnecessarily strange (but on-brand) shirt, Rodman tried to explain his bond with the North Korean leader to Stephen Colbert.

With this valuable footage in hand, VICELAND’s Desus and Mero discussed Rodman’s long-standing relationship with Kim Jong-un, and revisited some of the bizarre interviews he’s given about him.

You can watch the latest episode of Desus & Mero for free online now, and be sure to catch new episodes weeknights at 11 PM on VICELAND.