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Frédéric Fleury: I never met Johnny in real life. All I know is he started insulting me on Facebook and I had to answer because I'm a proud person. Now he's spamming my wall every day, posting silly drawings. It's a fucking pain in the ass. Everyone can see it, even my poor mom.
Johnny Ryan: A few years ago I came across Fred's "Ice Fuckers" drawings on Flickr and I've enjoyed his work since then. I've never met Fred. All I know about him is that he likes to fuck ice and trees.
FF: Seriously, I've known Johnny's work for a while. I've been following him on publications like yours and on Flickr. I only discovered his books a short while ago—it's not easy to find Johnny Ryan in French libraries. I am the number one French Prison Pit fan.

JR: I think I did the first drawing of Fred. Everyone is losing.
FF: Yes, everyone.
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JR: The first drawing was Fred shitting a lightning bolt.

JR: It will end with Fred lying face down on the ground and blood spraying out of his ass like a fountain.
FF: I think that it will go private. We're already exchanging some real drawings by mail, the old-fashioned way.

JR: I like Fred's cartoon style and his sense of humor. He draws gross shit and he's very inventive in that area. I relate to that.
FF: He always surprises me, he has no limits and his drawings always make me laugh. I think that Prison Pit is his masterpiece. I really love the way he's working in black and white.

FF: Penis, ass, boobs, I'm sorry but this stuff will always make me laugh, even if a kid draws a huge cock on my new car. It's not only about penises, I think it's more about some kind of destruction of the body mixed with bad jokes and insults.
JR: A penis is the only thing that you can draw that immediately makes people go "AWESOME!" It's a great unifier.

JR: I guess so. But when you put it that way I get really bummed out for some reason.

FF: I have learned that Johnny's dog wears a Mexican hat.
JR: I've learned that Fred needs mental help.


FF: As long as a book contains bad jokes about Moebius, Tezuka, Crumb, and Sammy Harkham it should see the light of day.
JR: I feel sorry for the whole world.