Erykah Badu might be one of the most prolific artists out there today, but she has another job she’s passionate about—being a doula.

When she visited Desus & Mero on Thursday, the singer, who’s hosting this year’s Soul Train Awards, shared what inspired her to become a doula, a role in which she helps people at the beginning of their lives through childbirth, and the end of their life, in death.

You can watch last night’s Desus & Mero for free online now, and be sure to catch new episodes weeknights at 11 PM on VICELAND.