
My mother smokes paraphernalia as I speak.
My mother buys cocaine from a dope man/
She loves to smoke that crack pipe.Wesley Willis, who was born in Chicago in 1963 to a family of ten kids, was sent to a foster home early on because his mum, an abusive alcoholic, didn't care much for her kids, and got them to sell their food stamps to buy her booze. One of her boyfriends, Roger Lee Carpenter, used to beat her up, and on occasion made the kids watch while he had sex with her. In 1989 he threatened Wesley with a gun and stole his savings. This incident is believed to have brought on Wesley's paranoid schizophrenia.
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Chris: Later today I'm going to a meeting because apparently there's some hazardous waste that's been poured onto the soil a few blocks away from my house. So I'm a little concerned for the area.Does a lot of hazardous waste get dumped in Wyoming?
No, they're just discovering it.Well good luck. So your documentary's finally on the shelves. What's the reception been like?
It's going good, we hoped that it would find an audience, and it has. It's hard for a little documentary like this to get good word of mouth going, but it's happening.When did it all start for you? When did you first meet Wesley?
It was around 1997. It's a strange story. I was in Denver visiting some friends and we were talking about people we would like to meet and I said Wesley. And weirdly that same evening we found out that not only was he was in town, but he was available to hang out. It was very serendipitous. But meeting him was terrifying. We went to pick him up, it was nighttime, and he came out of the shadows and he was hitting himself in the head and saying, "Fuck this shit, fuck, fuck!" Anyhow, as soon as he gets in the car with us he says, "Do you like my music?" And we passed the test. He was OK with us because we were OK with him. And we had a good time, he gave me my first headbutt – and for me, when I got my first headbutt, it was my rite-of-passage moment. And it was when I first got the sense that there was something more with him. Because when Wesley would give you a headbutt he would say, "Look at me, look at me like a ghost." And when you're looking at him that close, face to face, the eyes would cross, and all of a sudden his two eyes would become one eye. It was pretty far out. A lot of people would write off an interaction like that as crazy, but I knew there was something more to him than that. And that's what kind of motivated me to make a film about him. He was truly unique.Was there a specific angle you wanted for the film?
I guess the only angle I had was that I really wanted it to be Wesley in his own words, as much as possible. I showed him as much as I could too because I wanted him to have as much influence on it as he was comfortable with. I asked him what we should call it and he said "Joy Ride", which we got a lot of heat for, but I couldn't change it because it came from Wesley, and I liked it, I didn't want to change it.How did the film change in light of his death? Obviously it changed into a very different film than the one you started making.
There was a time after he died when we were so wiped out we didn't think we'd be able to finish it. When we started we didn't know he'd get leukaemia and die, and our hope was that when the DVD was done, Wesley would come around the film festivals with us and it would be a whole new audience for him, and that was exciting, we knew how much fun he would have. A lot of people saw Wesley as a novelty, but if they got to hang out with him like we did, they wouldn't have written him off, because they would have seen the humanity. So I guess the point is we realised that what we had became a lot more special after he died, and we realised we had to finish it, even if it took five years to do. Which it did. We didn't wanna rush it.View the trailer here.ALEX GODFREY