Philippe Marcade: We had a lot of fun with Cookie in Provincetown that summer. There were a lot of parties, and my favorite memory from there, that completely changed my life, was that my friend Bruce brought an old suitcase full of 45 records that had belonged to his older brother. We had a little record player, and I would put it on the porch at night in front of the house, and play all these records. It was like all these rare rock and roll records, a lot of rhythm and blues, rock-a-billy, surf, and all the late 50s and early 60s stuff. That became my passion during that summer.
You could feel that something new was coming up. Like, enough of the fucking hippies, give us something else! So I guess that's the influence of John Waters, and his films, of course. — Philippe Marcade
Dennis Dermody: Cookie would say, "I'm going to dress down and go to Hyannis to pick up my welfare checks…"And I would see her hitchhiking on the highway in a monkey fur coat, looking like "Cookie Mueller!" I mean she looked amazing, and I thought, "She thinks that's normal? She has no clue what normal is!"
I had lived 15 years in utter darkness. I had never gone out during the day, so all of a sudden I was living in this light. — Nan Goldin
Philippe Marcade: I only stayed with Cookie once in New York, when I broke up with my wife. She put me up because I didn't know where to stay, and, as a matter of fact, it was a time when I was very sad, and Cookie was essential to put me back on the right track.You know, of all the girls I met in New York, I would say Cookie was the most fantastic one by far. I never went out with her or anything, but I thought she was such a cool girl. I really dug her. And she was a great writer, too.Nan Goldin: Cookie went to Italy and met an Italian artist, Vittorio Scarpati. A few years later he came to New York, and they got married, and they were both HIV positive. When Vittorio died in September of 1989, Cookie had lost her voice and could no longer speak, and she couldn't walk without a cane… she kind of gave up.Philippe Marcade: You know what really shocked me? I don't want to put down Nan Goldin, but I went to see her show at the Guggenheim because there was a picture of me, and I wanted to see it. But there was a huge blow-up photo of Cookie dead in her coffin, and that shook me so bad. I could not hold my tears. I couldn't, it just shocked me. So I left the museum, and I was a bit mad at Nan for showing a picture like that. I thought, "Well, if I was dead, I wouldn't want people to see me like that!"Nan Goldin: I used to think I couldn't lose anyone if I photographed them enough. With the death of Cookie I realized it didn't work.Philippe Marcade: It's so sad, all these people who died of AIDS, her husband had it, and they died one after the other, Cookie and him, you know?Cookie Mueller: Fortunately, I am not the first person to tell you that you will never die. You simply lose your body. You will be the same, except you won't have to worry about rent or mortgages or fashionable clothes. You will be released from sexual obsessions. You will not have drug addictions. You will not need alcohol. You will not have to worry about cellulite or cigarettes or cancer or AIDS or venereal disease. For more on culture, watch our doc 'Was Punk Rock Born in Peru?':
I used to think I couldn't lose anyone if I photographed them enough. With the death of Cookie I realized it didn't work. — Nan Goldin