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Dr Mandy Banton: I was appalled. Shocked. Staggered. But I’m most concerned with the files secretly brought to the UK from the former colonies. The question is: Why did the Foreign and Commonwealth Office not do anything with them over all these years? Why did it just leave them sitting there?A government-commissioned report on the matter admits that, early on, some Hanslope Park staff members knew the files contained “potentially sensitive/interesting material”, but that most people were in the dark. Effectively, the report blames bureaucratic incompetence. Do you believe that?
No, I don’t. I think there was an element of that… but really, I think it was deliberate concealment. And who knows what secrets may still remain. The Kenya files that were released, for example, spelled out how badly the British had been behaving in Kenya. But there is still a little batch of Kenya files that have never been found. Of course, whether that's genuine – whether they really have never been found, or whether they are secreted away somewhere – I have absolutely no idea.

I have an extract from a circular, sent out to East Africa in 1961, which says that colonial governors were asked to ensure that they did not pass along, to successor governments, documents which “might embarrass Her Majesty’s government or other governments", or which “might embarrass members of the police, military forces, public servants or others”.
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Other papers – internal Colonial Office records – were destroyed later, in Britain. For instance, records related to the Batang Kali massacre [in which British troops killed 24 unarmed villagers in 1948, at the height of the so-called "Malayan Emergency"] were destroyed in 1966. Two years ago, there was a case before London’s High Court about the massacre, and the High Court of Justice wrote on its website that “files on law and order during the Malay Emergency had been destroyed in 1966, as the files were not considered worthy of public preservation”.
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I know! It’s extraordinary, isn’t it?What's the latest date at which Britain was destroying colonial files?
I found a very interesting file: FCO 141/19933. It includes a redacted copy of an internal FCO email, dated 18 April 2012. The email references a list from the 1980s, which records Kenya boxes 668-678 as destroyed. The box numbers indicate to me that the files were originally held in London, and so were destroyed in London around 1980-81.

No.In a recent academic presentation, you mentioned an FCO minute dating back to 1999, which instructs FCO officials not to reveal the existence of the Migrated Archives. What’s that about?
I found this document in a file that was recently made public. It refers to the BIOT [British Indian Ocean Territories] commissioner’s office in the Seychelles, and says: “Do not disclose existence of the migrated records without express permission of senior RHS staff.” [RHS refers to "Records and Historical Services", a unit of the FCO.]The "not" in "do not disclose" is underlined three times.
Yes.So as late as 1999 someone at the FCO knew about the Migrated Archives and consciously made the decision not to disclose that.
Yes.Is there any effort, within former British colonies, to get these kinds of files back?
The Kenyans have wanted them back forever. But elsewhere, I’m not sure that there is a great deal of interest. I find that surprising, and in a way disappointing, because I don’t believe that these are UK public records. I don’t believe that for a second. They belong to the former colonies.
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[Laughs] I think you should look back at the 1958 Public Records Act. It was not intended to cover colonial governments, which were treated as separate. In fact, in 2011, the FCO asked for a formal legal opinion on whether colonial files belong to the UK [as opposed to the former colonies themselves]. Lawyers judged that they are, in fact, UK public records. I put in a Freedom of Information request asking for the wording of that legal opinion, but my request was refused.

Oh, I’m relieved! When this all came to light, I was so angry. I was absolutely furious.When you were working at TNA, did you ever suspect that the FCO might be holding documents back?
I had no idea.Do you feel like you were misled?
I was misled. I was definitely misled. The reason I’m so angry about it is because, in concealing it from me, the FCO forced me to mislead my readers. The file that I referred to earlier – the one from April 2012 – contains correspondence between the FCO and The National Archives, which shows me that some of the people I worked with at TNA knew about the Migrated Archives.And there was me, the expert on the Colonial Office, and I didn’t know about it! In my opinion, that has to be a deliberate concealment.Thanks, Dr Banton.@katieengelhart