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Mickey Down: It’s the chicken and the egg—one informed the other. Konrad and I had always wanted to create something about how we interpreted the experience of being in your mid 20s.Konrad: Fundamentally, it tells the story of a guy who chooses the path of least resistance, with his eyes on a prize that he can’t be bothered to work for. The character of Gregor aimed to sum up all those feelings of mid-20s angst, ambition, and aspiration within a character that may be slightly feckless but ultimately isn’t a bad guy. It’s not gloomy. It’s a comedy.
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Mickey: Yeah, Gregor is a guy who wants it all—even if “all’ means a carton of milk, a widescreen TV, and a box set of The Sopranos—but in return for as little effort as possible. That’s the way the Penrose stairs on the poster came about…
Konrad: He’s locked in a neve rending cycle of pleasure and punishment, getting nowhere and learning nothing.Gregor waits around for good things to come to him, without doing any work. Do you think this is a widespread thing for young people?
Mickey: I don’t know if we would go as far as to say that it’s “a widespread thing,” but I feel that one of the characteristics of this generation—in the Western world certainly—is that its expectations far outweigh what, in many scenarios, is realistically possible. The initial tagline for the film was “a generation who feel they can do anything by right and end up doing nothing by default,” and it was always these kinds of characters who we wanted to explore.Konrad: There’s a feeling among certain young people like Gregor that, because you’ve been privileged with a good education and all the tools needed for success, you can wait around and let that success find you, rather than going out there and achieving it yourself.

Mickey: That's a difficult question. Maybe there's a tendency for millennials to feel oppressed by a lack of opportunity, the state of the economy, to play the victim: "Have you seen the state of shit out there? It's not my fault. Turn on the TV." To give a non-generic answer: Maybe one point of difference is the instant affirmation of social media—"likes" on Instagram and stuff. That whole currency gives you a weird kind of satisfaction, a momentary sense of achievement. Give yourself enough of those little fixes of social approval and you feel like you've achieved something. You don't need to get off your arse to feel that.
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Konrad: We really wanted to marry a completely natural tone of acting with absurd or heightened situations. Some early episodes of Louie,like the one where his date leaves in a helicopter, does that really nicely. The other influences are too wide to list—Lena Dunham, Peep Show, Woody Allen, Withnail and I. We're obsessed with comedy, so it's all there. That said, we’re massively influenced by Steve McQueen, especially Shame, and there are some scenes that purposefully pay homage to that film.Mickey: A lot of the way it looked was in coordination with our director of photography, Sam Goldwater. We thought there was no reason that a comedy shouldn't look good and be nicely framed. That look doesn't have to be just for art house stuff.

Mickey: No. Gregor has too much sex. That was other people. I’m sure we’ve all fucked up and made as many bad decisions as Gregor, but unlike him I’d like to think we’re slightly better at learning from our mistakes.Gregor also satirizes big business and huge salaries. What advice would you give young people who want to work for the highest possible salary?
Mickey Do whatever makes you happy and fulfills your potential. For us, working in finance was never going to work out because we were pretty shit at it. Konrad got fired and I jumped before I was pushed.Konrad: Then again, we have friends who work in finance who absolutely love it and who we couldn’t possibly imagine doing anything else. If you think being a banker is going to fulfil your potential and make you happy, then go for it. We’re not nihilists.Follow David Whelan on Twitter. Gregor is currently showing at Raindance Film Festival.
