Record producer Noel "Detail" Fisher attends the 2015 BMI R&B/Hip-Hop Awards at Saban Theatre on August 28, 2015 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images for BMI)
Long after Buch’s judgment was won, Detail has resurfaced, demanding the case be reopened and claiming he had no knowledge of it at all. He has also claimed in court filings that restraining orders sought by Buch and another woman damaged his career, smearing his name and making it virtually impossible for him to work, as well as damaging his psyche so much he became homeless. (Buch’s lawyers have argued that his claim that he knew about the restraining orders, but somehow failed to learn about the lawsuits, strains credulity.) In court filings, Detail has also denied the assault allegations, writing that he has been “wrongly and falsely” accused of physical and sexual abuse, and that those allegations have taken a toll on both his career and his mental health.Buch won a sizable default judgment against Detail after he simply failed to show up or respond to the lawsuit in any way.
Before that, though, as the Me Too movement unfolded in 2016, 2017, and 2018, so did Detail’s alleged abuse and exploitation. What was happening in the broader culture, according to Buch, didn’t touch the studios where the two worked, in a relationship that she says quickly veered from professional to violent.Buch moved to Los Angeles from her hometown in Indiana in 2016, hoping to start a career as a singer. Her sister had been living in New York, and the two, who were always close, agreed they’d move to LA together. They found a place and both were signed to the same modeling agency, L.A. Models. But Buch was more interested in music, and when she met Detail in December of that year, at a studio where she’d been invited to hang out, it felt like an astoundingly lucky break.“We had to push so hard,” she said.
Time's Up provided what they call “PR support” in Buch’s case, a PR person named Shayna Englin, who reached out to VICE News on Buch’s behalf, and who was present for our interviews. (Englin didn’t intervene in the reporting process in any way, and Buch confirmed privately that she was comfortable having her present.)Though there’s a perception that the MeToo movement has begun winding down or losing steam, Tejani says that the number of people seeking help from Time's Up has barely slowed, even with the COVID-19 pandemic. They’re currently providing legal support in 257 cases and public relations in 90.Throughout the last two years, Tejani says, entertainment has been one of the more common fields in which people seek their help. Many are young women, which isn’t surprising, due both to the demographics of the entertainment industry and the realities of abuse. “One of the other places that the EEOC says it’s common to have sex harassment is [where there are] young workers,” Tejani said. “That’s especially upsetting; when you think about it, you’re setting people’s expectations about what’s supposed to happen at work. There’s a lot in the restaurant industry, which is many people’s first job. And so then your next job you think this is how it’s supposed to be. Nobody stopped it when you’re 17 and you think it’s normal in your next job at 25.”“From then on, he started being like, ‘This is it, you’re a star.’”
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 13: Noel "Detail" Fisher attends Imagine Peace with Red Hot Chili Peppers & The John Lennon Educational Tour Bus at Fernando Pullum Community Arts Center on February 13, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Araya Diaz/Getty Images)
Buch’s mother said she was concerned by how difficult it was to decipher what Detail was saying. “I was always concerned because he was so out there and much different than anybody I’d ever met,” she said. She says she contacted Buch’s music attorney to ask, in her words, “Is this normal?”The attorney reassured her, she said. “She said the industry was like a foreign country and their level of professionalism wasn't the level we were used to, their ways of communicating.” (The attorney didn’t respond to a phone call requesting comment.)Another of Buch’s family members was struggling at the time with a drug problem that would ultimately result in them going to rehab, and Detail involved himself in that too, telling Buch’s mother that to keep her from going down the same road, Buch needed to get out of the apartment where she lived in West Hollywood and move closer to him in Santa Clarita, a city north of Los Angeles. He promised to take over the rent payments on the West Hollywood apartment, Buch and her mother say, but didn’t do so consistently, and was “mad about it” when he did pay, Buch’s mother said. “It was a very stressful time for our family and my husband and I.” It became part of a larger dispute about what Detail called “Kristina’s budget,” her mother says—the amount of money they all needed to pitch in to make her a star.“Every day was a journey,” she said. “Every single day was fucking crazy.”
Detail asked that the judgment in the Buch case be set aside. Buch’s lawyers were still fighting this when the criminal case against him was filed and he was taken into custody in August.Detail’s attorney Jaaye Person-Lynn alleged to VICE News that some of the complainants in the criminal case were involved in a supposed break-in at Detail’s home.“They went to his home. Stole some things from his home,” he said. (Responding to the allegations of a break-in or coordination among Detail’s abusers, Buch replied, “Absolutely not.”)“I was homeless and sleeping either behind a warehouse in the Castaic Lake area or on a couch in the living room of anyone who would let him [sic] stay.”
“It’s a whole new chapter again that I have to be ready for,” she said. “To prepare myself for this whole new thing.” The process wasn’t painful, exactly, but deeply wearying, she said. "It’s really personal to keep reliving it all.”Buch has been working intensively in therapy, cooking, and spending time with her sister. She’s also doing some college coursework online: psychology, English, and music. “Music is easy,” she said recently, laughing.For many people, sexual abuse can be the end of trying to pursue a career in their chosen field. Buch is determined that that won’t be her. “I’m still modeling and trying to do music,” she said. “I’ve been working some and working on releasing a single soon.”Buch’s mother, who’s attended a handful of business meetings with her daughter, says she’s been struck by the difference in the experience she’s had with music industry people post-Detail. “It’s been so different. I didn’t walk away confused like I often did with Detail.” She’s relieved that Buch isn’t “in some studio all night long,” as she puts it, but added, “I’m very leery of the music industry and always will be.”“He told me so many times I wouldn’t be shit without him,” Buch said recently. “But I’m like, ‘Yes, I am.’ I can do this without you.”If you need someone to talk to about an experience with sexual assault or abuse, you can call the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673), where trained staff can provide you with support, information, advice, or a referral. You can also access 24/7 help online by visiting online.rainn.org.“I’m glad I’m finally getting justice.”
