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Trish: I never sought to fill quotas but I've had a long awareness that women are underrepresented. I did a book with Wystan Curnow published in 1991 that was about eight women artists but we titled it Pleasures and Dangers: Artists of the 90s , because I refused to say "women artists." I refused to separate and segregate. I think as soon as you have quotas you're implicitly acknowledging the ghettoising. I've never done that. For me there is a deep awareness of rectifying wrongs, since the 70s.
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I was a rabid feminist. I guess I was very privileged to have a forceful father figure who really made certain that we did not think that women were second-class citizens in any way. I was stunned when I got to university and saw that was not every woman's experience. I naturally got involved, as I got involved in the Vietnam War, or anti-nuclear things. I saw a wrong that needed righting. I've lived my life as a feminist. I don't view women artists as different to male artists. I simply see artists, and I think if work is compelling I want to work with it. It just so happens I suppose that I understand there's often a quieter emotional resonance that underpins a lot of work that women do. It's not "heroic."Is that the reason why there isn't more equal representation by dealers?
It is really. Heroic art announces itself firmly and people respond. The quieter more resonant work that is often rooted in women's experiences or women's daily lives gets overlooked. Take Louise Bourgeois, for example, who is a truly great artist. She had her first major show at 70 years old. It was deeply emotionally engaging and tremendously insightful, but that early work wasn't heroic.Why is that that the number of female students at art school exceeds males and yet they get eclipsed by guys in the galleries?
Because I've been around for 35 years, I've seen an awful lot of people rise and an awful lot of people disappear. I think it takes a vast amount of drive, energy, insight, self-awareness, thick skin, and an enduring ability to put oneself onto an uncomfortable edge where the outcome is unknown. All of that is required by a lifetime of making art. Some people have that incredible strength of character who can do that. And some people don't. Some of them are men, and some of them are women. I think a lot of people making art realise very quickly they can't do this meaningfully for a lifetime.
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Every dealer gallery is a reflection of the owner and they can't be anything other than that. So certain galleries may in fact be predominantly male in their artist roster simply because it reflects their own personal worldview and values.How much support do artists actually need?
Vast quantities. That's why I gave up my first gallery, which I ran for five years. I had a baby and toddler and I realised I was having to give the artists more emotional sustenance than I was giving to my own children. That's why I swore I wouldn't have another gallery until the kids had left home. Quite apart from the financial more prosaic nature of business, artists require emotional sustenance because it's so hard to keep making meaningful art year in and year out because you cannot make meaningful art unless you keep propelling yourself into an area of discomfort.Often after about 40, 45, 48 you see a real flowering of women artists and it's because their energy is more their own again. They might not have made work actively for some time. That doesn't mean they've stopped being an artist. They come back into active practice, often and there's absolutely no handicap from being out of practice for some time. It's just the trajectory of their lives tends to be different from male artists. That's for inbuilt reasons that we can't change.Do you feel that's happened to you in the rhythm of your career?
Totally. While I did 25 years of art consultancy, no client ever demanded from me what an artist needs from me. That's why I'm ready now that I have no children left at home to give it my all. In your 60s most women are ready to play a bit more tennis. I'm ready to give it my all.Follow Frances on Twitter