VICE feed for https://www.vice.comenTue, 20 Nov 2018 06:17:44 +0000<![CDATA[Do Old People Think Other Old People Are Hot?]]>, 20 Nov 2018 06:17:44 +0000Are old people hot? As a young person, the answer seems simple no. Old people are not hot. They are at best "cute", and sometimes even "adorable", and very often "endearing." But hot has a shelf life, it seems, and most people would agree that things start to sour somewhere between the ages of 30 and 50 years.

Then again, who are we to say? Isn't beauty a subjective thing; something relative to the age and experience of the beholder? Tastes change—they mature—and the things that get you hot under the collar as a 20-year-old could be completely different to the things that get you feeling toe-y in your twilight years.

To find out what the elderly actually think, we hit the streets of Mornington to ask around. Do old people think other old people are hot?

Mick, 89, former horse trainer and miner


Do you find people in your age group attractive?
I suppose so, some of them.

Did you find your husband attractive right up until he passed?
Absolutely. We met when we were 14 and we used to swim a lot and he was a surfer, so he kept fit.

When you were growing older, was there a specific time you thought of him as sexy?
I always thought that about him, yeah.

Nowadays do you find younger or older people attractive?
I think most people are attractive really. But the most attractive quality about a person is the way they conduct themselves: whether they're polite or not.

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There's a new Shrek remake coming down the pipeline. We're not talking about Shrek 5, the mysterious reboot that some speculate will be directed by Guillermo del Toro. We mean Shrek Retold, a feature-length, shot-for-shot reimagining that will transform the original script into something wholly new—and, from the looks of the trailer, wholly disturbing.

According to AV Club, more than 200 artists have banded together under the banner of 3GI Industries, which hosts an annual Shrek-themed festival, to recreate every single scene from the 2001 classic in their own original styles. The hallucinatory combination of different animation techniques and live-action sequences, all of wildly different levels of effort and quality, comes off like a nostalgic fever dream—or maybe like if you turned a game of "exquisite corpse" into a movie.

There's a Newgrounds-esque Flash animation of the fairy tale creatures squatting in Shrek's swamp. There are many, many dudes reenacting Shrek's lines while slathered in green paint and sporting fake antennae. At one point, Shrek and Donkey storm the dragon's castle as anime characters. It's all vaguely disturbing, if not severely so; and yet, at the same time, it's kind of amazing. Somehow, these people actually pulled off a half-animated, half-live action, homemade Shrek remake—and if nothing else, the feat alone is impressive as hell.

The whole thing is the brainchild of Grant Duffrin, an artist who founded Shrek Fest four years ago, and has spent the years since crowdsourcing talent for Shrek Retold. He told Quartz that there's not a speck of irony in his passion for Shrek, which he compared, for some reason, to ice cream. "Could you enjoy ice cream ironically?" he said. "Could you eat ice cream as a joke?" Duffrin also claimed that Shrek Retold has nothing to do with the uncanny memes spawned from the "Shrek is life, Shrek is love" version of the ogre. It's not about the memes, he said. It's about the fictional green swamp creature who inspired them.

Regardless of whether Shrek Retold is a parody or a love letter (or maybe both?), you can check it out November 29 when it hits the 3GI Industries website, if a twisted, DIY recreation of a children's movie sounds like your kind of thing.

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<![CDATA[7 Secrets of an Indian Competitive Eating Champ]]>, 20 Nov 2018 05:53:46 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE India.

How can you describe the act of someone spending 23.49 minutes on Ganesh Chaturthi gobbling up 101 modaks and in the process, consuming close to 18,000 calories? While most of us won’t understand why this strange gastrointestinal feat aka ‘speed/competitive eating’ even exists, for many around the world, eating ridiculously large quantities of food in a minimum amount of time is considered a sport.

In India, 21-year-old Sanket Sankpal has been eating way too much food since last year, catapulting him and his YouTube channel, Wake ’N’ Bite, to viral fame (205k subscribers). The final year Civil Engineering student’s first video from June 2017 saw him and his friend eat a square pizza in under 30 minutes. No biggie, you’d think. But this video racked up 205k views, making the Mumbai boy take his serious fascination for American food reality show Man v. Food to another level. What sets him apart from world champs (more known for wolfing down hot dogs) is his desi choice of food: vada pav (an alleged world record of eating one in 13 seconds—care to beat it?), samosa (one in 16 seconds), 50 chicken lollipops, 400 pani puris between him and his brother, and 2.4-litre Maaza (in 20 seconds). He often invites friends and family to join him, with his Mom vs. Dad challenges doing particularly well—the one with them eating pani puris got 7 lakh-plus views.

“I first tried singing and then dancing but wasn’t too good at either,” he tells VICE. “I wanted to do something fun on YouTube and randomly put up the pizza-eating video. It did really well, and no one was doing this in India. India mein khaane wale log kitne hai; khaane mein mazza hi kuch aur hai (India has so many eaters; there’s a different fun altogether in eating). People ask me why I do what I do. But it’s a different high altogether.”


As he preps to place a massive KFC order for a video later that day, we had to ask: What was the competitive eating game plan?

1) An eater actually requires training though there’s no manual.

Stomach capacity is the make-and-break deal keeping you from wolfing down a ridic amount of, say, cupcakes. An adult stomach can usually hold about one litre of food but competitive eaters train it to stretch far beyond—sometimes up to seven times its natural resting capacity. “If you keep having lots of water, you can stretch that capacity,” says Sankpal. While some monster eaters use low-calorie but filling food to expand the capacity, many use water for its zero calorie and easy-to-process properties. Plus, it’s kinda free.

When you OD on food, what usually kicks in is the satiety reflex. That’s the one telling your brain you are full/want to throw up all over the damn place. Pros have to work to overcome this very reflex. “I usually watch videos of other professionals, and listen to their tips. Apart from the physical training, this is also a mind game. In my case, because I am making a video of the eating, I have to make sure I remain excited and energetic even if the food is making me dull or not feel good.” Reminds you of the time when the munchies hit and you ate 12 Nutella waffles and then proceeded to barf all over your friend’s shoes, doesn’t it? Oh, that’s just me? (Sorry, Sneha).

2) Water is their BFF. Not to hydrate but to lubricate.

Most competitive eaters dunk their food in water or have sips of warm water between bites to soften and lubricate the food, allowing it to be swallowed more easily. “I remember this one time we were doing a challenge that involved eating butter chicken and naan. By the time we finished taking shots of the food and my introduction, the naan had become very hard. We ate the chicken but the naan was ridiculously tough. Ultimately, I dunked it in water for some seconds before eating it.” Gross much?

3) The best competitive eaters are in great shape.

Look at the top eaters around the world and you will realise that most are in great shape or real skinny. “If you have stomach fat, it can actually hinder your ability to eat,” says Sankpal, who is 5 feet 7 inches, and weighs 70 kgs. Sankpal religiously hits the gym, with the only exception being when exams are around the corner. What’s important is what to put in your system when you are not competing or making YouTube videos. “I keep my meals homemade, healthy and light. Plus, travelling for four hours to and from college means I am on my feet for considerable amounts of time.”

4) They do eat on competition days.

“On days I do my videos, I drink coffee and have a biscuit for breakfast. Lunch is very light, with just one roti and sabzi. If you stay hungry then your stomach doesn’t accept food.”

5) The possibility of death by chocolate (or any other food) is real.

Kids, do not try this at home. Choking is the fourth-leading cause of unintentional injury death—and it happens with disturbing frequency at competitive eating events. According to a 2007 study by the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine: “Professional speed eaters eventually may develop morbid obesity, profound gastroparesis, intractable nausea and vomiting, and even the need for a gastrectomy. Despite its growing popularity, competitive speed eating is a potentially self-destructive form of behavior.”

“The worst I’ve ever felt was after downing 1.3 kg honey in 1 minute 37 seconds,” says Sankpal. “I started saying rubbish after it because there was so much sugar in my system that it really hits you. I just went and slept for a bit.” Do you worry about your health, we ask him, or sign up for body check-ups to know about long-term damage? “Not yet,” he says. “I try keep really healthy rest of the year, and I know I need to check my sugar levels and generally get tested. But I’ve not seen my weight fluctuate, and apart from the few uncomfortable minutes after each video or feeling out of breath for a bit, I haven’t felt sick.”

6) You can actually make money stuffing your face.

“Competitive eating is still too new in India but over the past year, I have not only been able to stop taking pocket money from my parents, but also purchase the equipment I need for my videos (camera, background, lights, laptop) by myself, and save a little. If you put up 7-8 videos a month and have 1 lakh-plus views, you can easily make Rs 30,000-40,000 a month. If your videos hit a million, the money can go up to even Rs 60,000. If I get a good job after graduation, I will take it up and do this by the side. But if this does really well and I meet my goal of a million subscribers, I will do it full-time.”

For competitive eaters in the land of plenty (and plenty-wasting) America, earning big bucks is a bigger possibility. The mega popular Nathan's Fourth of July Hot Dog-Eating Contest gets first-place winners $10,000, and champions often end up making six figures a year.

7) You don’t get into this because you love food.

So, you claim that your love for good grub is real and infinite. If that’s the reason you want to get into speed eating, allow us to tell you that you will not enjoy your ration. A pizza might be fun for three, seven, ten slices. But after the 15th, you might not want to look at one for a long time to come. “Even if it’s something delicious I love, like pastry, I hate it by the end of it,” says Sankpal. “There is no chance that you will enjoy the food you will eat. This is not about taste at all. Don’t do this for the love of food. You don’t want to end up hating what you love.”

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<![CDATA[McDonald's Worker Faces Assault Charges for Trying to Shove Bacon in Her Manager's Mouth]]>, 20 Nov 2018 05:50:11 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE US.

The Code of Laws for the state of South Carolina says that a person has committed third-degree assault and battery if they have attempted to injure someone and have the “present ability to do so.” And, in the near future, one of the state’s judges is going to have to determine whether trying to shove a piece of bacon into your manager’s mouth meets those legal standards.

Last Friday, a McDonald’s worker in Bluffton, South Carolina helped herself to a piece or two of bacon while she worked in the kitchen. Because that’s gross, her manager told her to knock it off—at least while she was supervising. The as-yet-unidentified worker heard those words, presumably acknowledged that she heard them, and then helped herself to another piece of breakfast meat.

The manager then told the woman’s boss, and this level-headed employee responded to that bit of McSnitching by backing the manager into a corner and “[trying] to shove hot crispy bacon in her face,” the Island Packet reports. The manager tried to fight her off, but the other woman slapped her in the face WHILE STILL HOLDING THE BACON. (If she’d just eaten it, the woman would’ve been effectively disarmed.) The kitchen worker then threw “a cup of an unknown substance” at the manager before a third McDonald’s employee stepped between the two of them.

The cops were called, and it seems like the meateater made an escape before they arrived. A judge has since issued a warrant for her arrest, and she is facing a charge of—yep—third-degree assault and battery.

Last October, a Goldsboro, North Carolina man reported that his girlfriend hit him in the face with a package of bacon during an argument, and we’re honestly not sure whether it’s better or worse to be struck with a single, greasy piece or a whole, plastic-wrapped pack. (And WRAL specified that this was “upside [her] boyfriend’s head” in its coverage of the incident). Bradley Ray Risinger declined to press assault charges against Stephanie Michelle Harell, but knowing that your names are forever connected to the words “bacon assault” is its own kind of punishment.

We hope that South Carolina judge shows leniency when he’s sentencing that McDonald’s worker. At least she used crispy bacon, your honor!

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<![CDATA[Primitive Living YouTube Is the Antidote to Our Detached Digital Lives]]>, 20 Nov 2018 05:48:35 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE ASIA.

Societal collapse is a trend that just won't end. We've got endless sci-fi novels about the end of civilization, a whole season of American Horror Story, and an entire lifestyle dedicated to prepping for the end of it all. But if—or when—it all comes crashing down, there's one man who won't be fazed one bit—the primal as-fuck host of Tube Unique Wilderness.

The channel follows an unnamed host as he creates awe-inspiring homes, meals, and even exercise equipment, out of some pretty primitive materials—mud, sticks, bamboo, and tree trunks harvested from the jungles of Southeast Asia. He looks like a timeless figure, a tanned, muscular man with a scraggly beard, and unkempt curly hair who tears into an ant mound with no hesitation at all to harvest some mud he needs to cement up the walls of his modest forest home.

The only "words" here are grunts and howls. The only clothes, a single pair of well-worn boxers. The only tools, a few sticks and blades. But with such limited means he creates truly amazing habitats like this two-story villa with its own pool:

There's something undeniable primal about his wordless work. Watch in awe as this true man of the forest grunts and wrestles with a crocodile that he, for reasons known only to him and the forest gods, decided to catch in a bamboo trap:

Or here, where he lets out howls of ecstasy while bathing in his second(!) rooftop bamboo swimming pool:

These videos are part of a weirdly addicting subculture on YouTube. While other viral hosts use promotional giveaways and cultivate clickbait personalities, these channels are all about life before social media influencers, or, hell, even electricity. In Survival Skills Primitive, a similar channel, two shirtless men silently show you how to catch, cook, and eat some giant crabs in the forests of Vietnam.

What is it I find so appealing about these videos? We all live in an age of wonders like wifi-equipped sex toys and drones armed with flamethrowers, but, for some reason, I keep coming back to watch videos of jungle hermits chowing down on beetle grubs and acting like we're living all alongside neanderthals again. These videos feel like a return to humanity's roots, even though all these Ice Age skills are being recreated for the YouTube Age instead.

It's all basically an advanced version of what's typically called "bush-craft"—the kinds of survival skills made popular by men like the piss-drinking, ice wall climbing, living meme that is Bear Grylls. But these men often go beyond the sheer shock factor of life on the edge, showing you not only how to survive, but how to live like a king as well.

Now, if you're like most VICE readers, you're probably living a sedentary lifestyle behind a computer all day where the most physical you get is the odd Crossfit class or some Sunday morning yoga. And that's fine, we're all right there with you, trust us.

But that doesn't mean you can't live vicariously through the lives of these self-styled jungle survivalists. Because, I mean, when you really think about it, who needs smartphones, or shirts, or words, when you have you have jungle wine? Amirite?

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<![CDATA[There Could Be More Plastic Than Fish in the Ocean by 2050]]>, 20 Nov 2018 04:16:52 +0000It’s a widely-acknowledged fact that Australia has a plastic waste problem. Straws are killing sea turtles, shopping bags are taking centuries to break down, and disposable coffee cups may well be the end of the planet. We all know this—that things are bad, and getting worse—but it can be hard to appreciate just how desperate the situation really is without some hard numbers to back it up.

So here’s a hard number: according to a new report by Credit Suisse, “There will be more plastic than fish in the ocean, by weight, in 2050."

The global financial analyst has issued an ominous warning against "the impending plasticide", and labelled plastic packaging as one of the most serious environmental challenges facing the world, according to SBS. It is predicted that Australia will have to introduce a “plastic tax” within the next few years in order to address the problem.

The issue, Credit Suisse suggest, stems in part from China’s recent tightening of contamination standards and the country’s refusal to keep taking on large portions of Australia’s recyclable waste. At the end of last year China announced that they would be banning the import of 24 types of refuse from waste exporting countries, Greenpeace reported. The most recent national data shows that in the year 2016-17, Australia exported more than 4.2 million tonnes of recycled materials in total—more than 1.2 million of which went to China. Now that the regulations have been tightened, 99 percent of the waste materials that Australia would usually ship to the Asian nation have been affected.

“This has left Australia in a position with a lot of recyclables, no market, and 'What do they do with it?' is really the question,” said Dr Trevor Thornton, lecturer in hazardous-materials management at Deakin University. "We've got to develop the market so businesses purchase the recyclables and use it to make the products, rather than using virgin plastics.”

When Trevor says “virgin plastics” he’s talking about newly-manufactured materials that haven’t been made into a product yet. The Credit Suisse report, cited by Waste Management Review, predicted that the Australian government would introduce a tax on these virgin plastics as a “reactionary policy measure”. They also lamented, however, that these policy initiatives probably won’t take hold until 2020-21.

“Our headline view is that things will get worse before they get better,” the report declared. “Plastic packaging has become one of the most intractable environmental challenges of our age.

“To curtail the situation in the short run, it is a matter of when, not if, we see reactionary policy measures.”

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<![CDATA[These Are Some of the Reasons Vegans Have Such a Bad Reputation]]>, 20 Nov 2018 04:00:11 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE US.

More and more people are adopting plant-based diets, but also seemingly on the rise is resentment towards vegans and vegetarians. This can range from ridicule on social media sites (“Nobody likes a vegetarian”) to bumper stickers (“Vegetarian is an old Indian word for bad hunter”). Recently, the editor of the UK-based Waitrose magazine, William Sitwell, stepped down after he called for a piece about vegans that would “expose their hypocrisy."

There has been a term coined for this backlash: “vegaphobia." There are even self-help books, such as Living among Meat Eaters: The Vegetarian’s Survival Handbook which offers advice to those whose dietary choices might be under attack. So what is it about vegans that some people find so annoying?

One reason vegetarians and vegans are the target of this negativity may be thanks to their sometimes overtly moral behavior, in the same way that a “goody two shoes” might annoy us. In one study, nearly half of all participants already felt negatively towards vegetarians. They became even more resentful when they felt that vegetarians considered themselves to be morally superior to omnivores.

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These findings are echoed by the results of my interviews with omnivores in Australia, which have shown that plant-based eaters are deemed, by some, to be “snobbish” and “elitist." The perception of a moral reproach can also trigger resentment in others. For example, an ad from PETA suggested that “feeding kids meat is child abuse." While such advertisements may attract attention, the use of strong guilt in messaging like this may also backfire.

This might explain the attitudes of the residents of Aargau, a town in Switzerland, who in 2017 called for the denial of citizenship to a foreign vegan resident. She was deemed “annoying” and critical of local Swiss customs, which include hunting, piglet racing, and cows wearing cowbells.

Another source of annoyance may be the so-called “militant vegan” who tends to use tactics of admonishment and intimidation, such as the vegan activists who splashed fake blood on French butchers' displays. Another recent example are the negative comments made by some plant-based food supporters after the death of omnivore chef Anthony Bourdain. There were subsequently criticized by vegan activist Gary Francione for their moral insensitivity and intolerance.

A key reason people adopt a plant-based diet is over concern about animal cruelty and suffering. Several activist organizations, in a bid to encourage people to reduce meat consumption, highlight the mistreatment and slaughter of animals by showing graphic and often shocking images which can trigger strong emotions.

This tactic, while effective in attracting attention, can also backfire. For one, exposure to animal cruelty can be overwhelming to the point where the audience may block out the information. It can make people avoid taking further action.

When exposed to the plight of an animal suffering, many people get upset and wish for the cruelty to end. This is all well and good, but there is a risk that such communications will foster negative attitudes toward the message sender as well. Repeated exposure to messages about animal cruelty may also, in the long run, result in the audience getting accustomed to such messages and they may eventually begin to ignore it due to emotional numbing or apathy. Sudden awareness of animal cruelty may also create pain and loneliness while others may feel powerless, especially if denied

the psychological benefit of helping others.

On the other hand, there are messages vegans and vegetarians can use that may be received better. These include incremental changes such as promoting meat-free Mondays, or becoming a “reducetarian." These would give the audience a vision to aspire to and motivate them to attain it.

Brian Kateman, co-founder and president of the Reducetarian Foundation, highlights a similar message to many vegan campaigns today, that meat-intensive diets are worse for our health, the environment, and for the animals we eat. But while many vegan campaigns messages advocate an all-or-nothing approach, that only eliminating meat is the answer, realistically it might not be possible for everyone to do so. Hence, reducetarianism might be a more achievable middle ground.

Despite the growing popularity of the plant-based food movement, it seems that the respect and empathy for animals which lies at the very heart of this movement could perhaps also be extended towards others who make different choices and, in doing so, open the doors towards greater acceptance.

Tani Khara is a PhD student in sustainability at the University of Technology Sydney. This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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<![CDATA[Almost 25 Years Later, Supreme Is Still a Skate Shop]]>, 20 Nov 2018 03:58:54 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE US.

On Tuesday night Supreme premiered "BLESSED", their second full-length skate video by William Strobeck. The film was a follow-up to 2014’s " cherry", and the spacious Village East Cinema on Second Avenue was packed. The crowd in the double-decker theater, made up of New York City skate locals, pros, artists, and pals of the brand, had a palpable energy. Strobeck has a reputation for holding his footage close to the chest before a video is released (he says he wants to create the vibe of getting a VHS tape in the mail), and true to form only a handful of people, excluding the skaters in the video, had seen what he has been working on for the past two and a half years. After taking the mic at the front of the theater, calling all the skaters up for thank-yous, and mentioning the lasting importance and memory of Dylan Rieder, a legendary skater and part of the Supreme family who passed away in 2016, the lights went down. Then, for the next hour and a half or so, the crowd lost its collective shit.

Supreme is a brand that received the 2018 Menswear Designer of the Year Award from the Council of Fashion Designers of America, has collaborated with haughty fashion houses and artists like Louis Vuitton and Damien Hirst, sold a part of its business to a multinational private equity firm, and last year was valued at one billion dollars. It's hard to imagine any other label in a similar position having either the ability or the desire to pull off a legitimately good skate video. But Supreme is unlike any other brand, and despite its widespread success, skateboarding remains central to its identity.

Supreme on Lafayette Street, NYC

The shop is a wildly exaggerated version of your local skate shop. It is an art gallery masquerading as a skate shop, or maybe a skate shop masquerading as an art gallery, complete with rotating installations and that iconic television display playing mostly skating nonstop in one form or another, like an eternal flame, for almost a quarter century. But at its most basic it is simply "a skate company that started as a skate shop in New York," as the former pro skater Todd Jordan, who currently manages skate related stuff for the brand, told me.

The first video that Supreme put out was a 16-minute black and white short by the artist Thomas Campbell called A Love Supreme, set to the eponymous song by John Coltrane. It featured Peter Bici, Gio Estevez, Jones Keefe, Mike Hernandez, Quim Cardona, and others skating through the streets, mixed with grainy footage of kids hanging out and living life in New York City. It’s a beautiful little film that would feel equally at home projected on the wall at PS1 or inside a skate shop. While the videos were some 20 years apart, A Love Supreme, "cherry", and now "BLESSED" compliment each other nicely, and that type of through-line from the beginning to the present day can be seen in the company as a whole.

When it opened on Lafayette street in 1994 in what was an old office space Supreme immediately became a skater hangout, thanks in no small part to its first employee, Gio Estevez, who was deeply plugged into the tight-knit New York City skate scene. Its founder, James Jebbia, who owned a shop called Union before working for Stüssy, had a deep appreciation for the aesthetics and general vibe of skateboarding, but he didn’t know the ins and outs of an industry notoriously suspicious of, if not outright hostile to, outsiders. By taking a backstage role and letting Estevez run the front of the house, he gave the shop the space to take on a life of its own, animated by the young skaters and misfits who treated Supreme like a second home. “The thing that really legitimized the store,” Jebbia said in an interview for the 2010 Rizzoli book Supreme, “I think, was the people who worked there, not me [...] The store was swarmed with all of these skaters because of the crew who were working there.”

Those “classic” days of Supreme with Harold Hunter, Jefferson Pang, Ryan Hickey, and others have been well documented and that period has earned its rightful place in skate history. But in the years since those early days, as the lines grew longer and the box-logo became a status symbol, it was easy to wonder whether the hype surrounding the streetwear side of the business had replaced the brand's dedication to skateboarding. When I met up with Jordan, Kyle Demers, and the artist Weirdo Dave, three of Supreme’s main dudes (“no one really has titles,” Jordan told me) at a dingy bar in the West Village, I asked them about that perception.

Dave, who works with the design team and has had a number of collaborations with the shop under his moniker Fuck This Life, said the LA store is proof that Supreme is still at its core a skate shop. “Nothing has ever changed,” he said. “You go to the fucking gas station, you get a 12-pack, you walk it over to the shop, you fucking hang out, crush beers… It’s always like a fucking shooting gallery of crazy, like-minded people… And that’s like, true to the tradition of any skate shop.”

And it’s been that way for quite a long time. In the same Rizzoli interview Jebbia talked about the atmosphere in the shop during those early days. “The store was swarmed with all of these skaters […] I’d been used to Stüssy and Union, where the people who were in the shop were actually in the shop to buy something. But at Supreme they just hung out.”

And while it’s obviously true that Supreme has expanded its customer base since those times, it’s also true that looking back through the product lines over the years, they have maintained a precise and uncompromising aesthetic that continues today. The insides of the stores themselves have also looked almost eerily similar over the decades. Pristine, bright, lots of right angles and pops of color, and, most importantly, a highly curated selection of skateboard decks hanging on the wall. “I look at them as the most successful skate shop ever,” Chris Nieratko, co-owner of NJ skateshop and VICE contributor said when I asked how he viewed the brand. “They play it like a real elitist skate shop owner would. They’re like, ‘Hey, we’re not carrying your whole line, we’re only carrying Jerry Hsu’s board.’” As skateboarding as a whole has morphed and followed (sometimes unfortunate) fads over the years, there’s something comforting in the consistency of Supreme.

“There’s always been a skate team,” Demers, who handles a lot of Supreme's brand management, told me. “But now it’s actually a fully thought-out skate team with videos and now we actually have skaters that have turned pro. We’ve always made clothes. But now instead of just a couple T-shirts and sweatshirts, it’s a full blown line. It’s not necessarily changing, we’re just doing more."

On a rainy day in early November I went to William Strobeck’s East Village apartment to chat about "BLESSED" and "cherry". While he has been filming skateboarding for over 20 years and captured the salad days at Philadelphia’s Love Park in the 90s, " cherry" was his first feature-length video. When the video came out in 2014, it immediately put to rest whatever doubts might have lingered in some corners of the skateosphere about Supreme. All black and white and full of a crew of largely unknown skate rats alongside Supreme staples like Jason Dill and Mark Gonzales hauling ass around New York and LA, it was like Strobeck had taken all of the most exciting things about skateboarding, thrown them into a blender, and spit them out on-screen.

The video came about after Demers, who had been friends with Strobeck since their teenage years, saw a short video Strobeck shot featuring some of Supreme’s skaters. “I did a Transworld part with all of them,” Strobeck said, “and the last minute of it I went out with Dylan [Rieder] to film with him and Alex [Olson] and [Jason] Dill because they were out in LA. When that came out, Kyle hit me up and he was like ‘Hey, would you like to try to do this commercial? We got this kid Tyshawn Jones and Dill’s in town. Do you want to try to go out with them for the weekend?’ And I was like fuck yeah.” The video they shot was turned into a 51-second short called “Buddy” that served as a kind of proof of concept for "cherry". “For some reason, I just felt the vibe of that kind of… it really stoked the owner out,” Strobeck told me. “I felt like it fit what Supreme was."

At the time, Tyshawn Jones—who this month is on the cover of the skateboard bible Thrasher was just one in a crew of kids hanging out around the Supreme shop and Strobeck, like most of skateboarding, didn’t know who he was. “It’s perfect that they proposed Tyshawn to me because I didn’t know [him], but obviously I know Dill, and I felt like their dynamic worked so perfectly. So from that point on it was like ‘Let’s try to do a full-length.’"

With a few notable exceptions like Coliseum’s P.J. Ladd’s Wonderful Horrible Life, skate videos made by shops, as opposed to hardgood companies, are generally thought of as second tier. Most big-name pros like to save their best clips for their board or shoe sponsors, leaving their shop video with the leftovers. But with "cherry", Strobeck and crew delivered a shop video full of raw power that could hold its own next to anything else out there. The kids in the video were young young, in their early teens, and skated with a kind of urgency that brought to mind staples from decades past like Dan Wolfe’s Eastern Exposure 3 or Alien Workshop’s Photosynthesis (which Strobeck filmed a lot of). Complementing those new guys were killer clips from the more established of Supreme’s ranks, and through it all, in "cherry" as in "BLESSED", the overwhelming vibe is of a tribe of dudes who are having a really fucking good time. The skateboard world noticed, and " cherry" catapulted Tyshawn and the other kids in the crew like Ben Kadow, Sean Pablo, Aiden Mackey, Sage Elsesser, and Nakel Smith onto the radar of the broader skate scene. The group of kids and the video had such an impact on skating that after its release skate shops around the country reported a spike in their Converse sales, the shoe of choice for some of the kids in "cherry," according to a Jenkem article.

But undoubtedly the thing that made "cherry", and now "BLESSED", so special was the alignment of all of these people existing at the same time and being in the same scene, ping-ponging between the shops in New York and LA.

"They are just naturals at this whole thing," Strobeck said of the kids. "It just seems like it was meant to be, because Sage [Elsesser] and Aiden [Mackey] and those guys and Nakel [Smith] and KB [Kevin Bradley] were all hanging out at the store [in LA]. For some reason they found that store, you know? It wasn’t like I came there and was like ‘Hey, these skaters are sick. Why don’t you come down to the store?’ I showed up there and those kids were in there smoking weed and kicking it in the back and just could go grab a board off the wall, you know?"

“We had kind of three very cool important skate generations all hanging out around the shop and the brand at the time and it felt like we had to make a video,” Demers said. “Like not necessarily wanted to, like we have to document this. Because like, Gonz and Dill, these guys are getting older but they’re still giving it their all and then we had dudes like Dylan and Alex who were in their prime, and then all these young kids. It just seemed like if we don’t make a video right now, no one is going to know this was even really happening.”

If "cherry" was an introduction to the current Supreme scene, "BLESSED" is a check-in, four years later. The kids have grown into themselves both literally and figuratively. They are physically larger, less awkward, and their trick selections are both creative and at a higher level. And while I was sworn to secrecy regarding the stuff actually in the video until its release, I can tell you that it is very good and will make you want to go ride a skateboard with your friends. And that, at the end of the day, is the ultimate goal of any skate video.

In 2018, it can be tempting to think of Supreme as defined by lines and a clientele far removed from skateboarding. But the fact of the matter is Supreme has been doing the same shit for almost 25 years. They are a shop that has a hyper-defined sense of identity, and one gets the feeling that it’s very fortunate that what they were doing caught on, because if their taste had sucked, their unwillingness to compromise would have remained, and they would have ridden the train into the ground. This is as true for the care and quality in their skate videos as it is of the clothes in their stores.

“It’s really just staying true to the voice that you fucking started on,” Jordan told me at the bar. “It doesn’t take a genius to know what’s good… When you have an understanding of what’s good and you know you do and you find like-minded people that know what’s good, you just kind of keep doing that. And I think that’s what Supreme figured out very early on.”

Toward the end of my chat with Demers, Jordan, and Dave, I asked them if they get annoyed by the perception, among some, that Supreme has drifted away from skating and that "cherry" was an attempt to realign themselves with the community. “I think for all of us, it’s off our radar more so than it is the people who are talking about it,” Jordan told me. Because we go into the office every day and talk with a bunch of people about what’s the latest fucking video on Thrasher. Like literally everyone we work with, we’re talking about mostly skate shit. It’s kind of weird sometimes. I was far more detached from skateboarding before working at Supreme than I am now [...] Skateboarding is just what makes our world go round. It’s what we look at, it’s what we talk about, it’s what we reminisce about. Yeah, it’s where our hearts are at, for sure.”

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<![CDATA[This Photographer's Surreal Photos Disrupt the Male Gaze]]>, 20 Nov 2018 03:52:36 +0000 This article originally appeared on VICE US.

Women are overlooked far too often in photography. How can we continue to combat this erasure? My answer is this column, “Woman Seeing Woman.” While it’s just the start of solving this problem, I, a female writer and photographer, hope to celebrate the astoundingly powerful female voices we have in photography by offering a glimpse into their work.

From the age of 12, and perhaps even before, the photographer Whitney Hubbs’s work has been rooted in disruption. She understood from a young age that the male gaze was being funneled into her, though she didn’t quite have the words for it at the time. Influenced by the Riot Grrrl movement, she sought to rebel against that gaze in the work she made from then on. “I was shown Edward Weston in my first photo class in ninth grade, and then I started using myself,” she says. “Like a punk Francesca Woodman.”

After graduating high school, Hubbs shaved her head and moved from her native Los Angeles to St. Louis, Missouri, on a Greyhound bus. She lived in punk houses there, where she also worked at a community-run record store and zine emporium, as well as in the Bay Area, and in Portland, Oregon. In Portland in particular, she fashioned a darkroom in the house’s basement, made a camera-lending library, taught people how to make pictures, and organized art shows.

Living and taking college classes in Portland was inexpensive at the time, Hubbs says, so she took a color photography class at night. After two years, her professor, John Mullen, told her she could go to art school. She didn’t know such a thing was possible when she graduated high school in 1995. “I didn’t know I could go to art school, but I knew when I graduated I could keep up my involvement with Riot Grrrl,” she says. She applied to one college, California College of the Arts, and got in. There, she studied with photographers like Jim Goldberg and Larry Sultan. Graduating in 2005, she went on to get her MFA in 2009 at the University of Southern California, after studying with the likes of Catherine Opie and James Welling.

Her Riot Grrrl roots traveled with her. “After undergrad, I got frustrated with the history of men using the female body and the female identity. It was a different time, and my history of photo class was basically men that I was learning about. I was like, ‘Where do I fit into this? Where do all my friends fit into this? How can I be a feminist and like something that’s male dominated?’ It took me five years for it to sink in and express it and regurgitate it out,” she says.


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<![CDATA[Man Arrested for Threatening to 'Blow Up Restaurant' Says He Just Wanted to Take a Dump]]>, 20 Nov 2018 03:49:24 +0000This article originally appeared on VICE US.

Look, we appreciate a good poop joke as much as the next 13-year-old, but if your alleged attempt at bathroom humor ends with a mugshot, an arrest warrant, and a pair of serious-sounding charges, you might be doing it wrong.

According to the Times-Picayune, 30-year-old Arthur Posey walked into a Willie’s Chicken Shack in New Orleans at about 7 PM Tuesday night. According to Posey, he commented to a female manager that he was going to “blow the bathroom up” and—again, according to him—what he meant was that he was going to take a massive shit. (Arthur, regardless of how this all shakes out, you need to work on your game.)

But according to the manager, Posey strolled into the restaurant, walked toward the food-prep area, and asked her how late the restaurant stayed open. She told him she didn’t know (side note: YOU’RE THE MANAGER, why don’t you know this???), and he told her “Y’all about to close right now, because I’m going to get a bomb and blow this place up.” She reported the incident to the Chicken Shack’s general manager, who advised her to call the police.

Posey had left the restaurant by the time the officers arrived, but they spotted him walking into a different business on the next block. He told the cops that he didn’t have a bomb, and just meant that he was about to “blow the bathroom up” with a swift, unyielding bowel movement.

The police didn’t buy it—especially not after the manager said that Posey never mentioned a bathroom to her. A second employee told officers that she heard him say that he was “going to get a bomb and put it under the middle table of the restaurant closest to the front door,” which sounds both weirdly specific and strangely… not at all like what the manager reported.

Posey was taken into custody, and is facing two counts of “communicating of false information of planned arson,” which has to be one of the most grammatically awkward charges a person can face. Orleans Parish Magistrate Judge Harry Cantrell scheduled a mental competency hearing for Posey on November 29.

If Posey’s account of events was true, we hope he found a bathroom.

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