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Originally, the plan by BFNN's two anonymous founders was to keep the blag going until the 1st of April. After that, they would pull the rug from underneath all the outraged people who have shared their articles without irony to make a quick point about the "bloody immigrants," "political correctness gone mad," or whatever. In a final punchline, all the links on the social media of anyone who's posted one of these stories are going to be re-directed to one article, telling these social media warriors that they've fallen for some cheap lies, and maybe they should check their sources once in a while.But last week ASDA sent them a legal writ after a story called "Asda to Remove Pork And Alcohol in High Muslim Population Areas" wound up netting over 57,000 shares on social media, including from the likes of Bristol UKIP 's Twitter feed. They realized they might have to pull the walls down sooner than that. How are upwards of 100,000 people going to take their own public ridiculing? We'll soon find out.You're not doing it right if you haven't had a few death threats.
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Geoff: By the scale of it, yeah. We knew it was successful because when we launched it, within ten minutes the server had collapsed under the traffic.Do you both have proper jobs?
I'm a writer.
Oscar: I'm a wine merchant.Have you had a lot of threats?
To be honest, the right-wing, they get angry at the news stories, but because they haven't really realized they're fake yet, they haven't come after us. I'm more scared of the far-left guys who think we're hate-stirring.Really?
Geoff: 100 percent. Because the punchline hasn't been revealed yet, it does look like we're stirring hate, which I totally understand.But there must be a lot of people who could potentially come after you?
There's one guy who threatened to oust me for tax reasons. It was funny, because I did no dodgy tax thing. On the back of selling some t-shirts. But I declared it all. I looked up the guy afterward and he was the former head of security for a right-wing organization. And his granddad had a profile on Wikipedia for, uh, being a racist person. So uh, probably involved with them in some way.Oscar: A lot of people in the Yes Scotland group take umbrage with us for reasons I'm unsure of. We've had some not-so-friendly messages from them. No death threats.
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Oscar: Honestly, if people want to go posting that crap on Facebook, that's fine, I don't have a problem with their right to. If you want to say something offensive, you should be able to. I've got no time for the Malicious Communications law. It's more about lampooning people like The Mail , The Mirror, and The Star, feeding stories that fit their established narrative to their audience.Geoff: Basically, it illustrates that within a couple of weeks, with a bit of internet know-how, you can put this sort of crap out to feed a certain narrative.Oscar: We actually never intended for every article to be about Islam. But we're not just hitting the far-right. The far-left are gonna get it in the neck too. No one's particularly safe at the moment.So you're equal opportunity wind-up merchants?
One of the things I don't like on the site is when you get people going, "Can't believe this. Bloody Muslims." Those things you expect from people who don't realize it's satire—fine. But it's the next guy going, "You're an idiot, you don't get it do you?" What good's that going to do? They might not be the most critically-thinking of people, but you're never going to get them back into the mainstream of politics if you're just going to belittle them. The people who are going, "You people are bigots, you're racists, you're scum" are just satisfying their own egos.
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Geoff: Yeah I've met Jimmy and Paul. What happened was, Britain First was doing a ten-date UK tour. I was in my hometown at the time having a beer. Long story short, I turned around and they all walked into the pub. I ended up saying hello to them. I hadn't told them who I was. We got photos with them, which was quite funny. Then they were ushered out of the pub. So I went to another bar, and then two of their security guards came downstairs, put their fingers in their earpieces, and said: "We've found the boy, we've found the boy."
It's mainly just him talking through his story. Every now and then, there's some interjection from one of his minders, saying, "Don't say that Jim, don't say that." On New Year's Eve I was really drunk and rang him and said, "Happy New Year, Jim." He said, "Oh, Happy New Year, mate." He told me he was retired from politics, but if I ever wanted to go down to Belfast and interview him, that'd be fine.What happens after the big reveal? Are you just going to leave this site where it is as a warning to all?
After that, it's just going to be a pure satire publication. I just want it to continue as some fake news and some real news—to blur the line between that. Because I think a lot of satire publications could benefit from that.Is anonymity a curse? Would you like to be telling people who you are and what you're up to?
In some ways. But it's a level of anonymity. Believe me—when I go down the pub, after a few, I tell everyone what I'm up to.Follow Gavin on Twitter.