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Danny Kushlick: Austerity has squeezed police budgets, so much so that they're seriously looking at where best to place limited resources. We're talking 30 percent cuts across national policing, and even more drastic cuts to the Metropolitan Police. That means there are going to be less coppers out there to deal with criminality. And cannabis prohibition creates an enormous number of criminals.So because there are fewer police officers, it's less likely they'll waste their time cautioning people for cannabis possession?
It's more to do with how the police allocate resources to particular crimes. Obviously the police have to prioritize certain crimes over others, because they can't do everything. One of the things that the police are looking at very seriously—and now making changes in—is de-prioritizing low-level possession or cultivation of cannabis. In fact, possession or low-level cultivation of cannabis has been de-prioritized by police in some areas of the UK to the extent that it's basically been decriminalized in practice.
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Alongside the situation in Durham, we've had police in Derbyshire, Dorset, and Surrey. They've all said, at the least, that we must review the current situation. They've initiated a public debate that is skewed heavily towards reform and away from prohibition. These aren't neutral events that are being set up; they have been very clearly set up [by them] to pave the way for reforms that lead to decriminalization.
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There are other factors apart from austerity at work here. Public opinion has shifted toward supporting legalization of cannabis, or at the very least decriminalization for possession. So we're now at the point where the majority of the public supports those two approaches, which means that police chiefs and crime commissioners know that they're not going to take heat [for not enforcing drugs laws] from the public. There will be a significant group of senior police officers who would rather not be dealing with drugs as a criminal issue at all—they would much rather be dealing with drugs as a health issue.
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Well, what the public cares about is violent crime and theft. It's about community safety. Clearly the enforcing of these drugs laws does nothing to increase community safety. So it's not helping the police serve and protect.What about outside of the police? Is this something that's being seriously considered?
I've had conversations with civil servants in the Ministry of Justice about this, and it's been [talked about while] looking at ways to save money. Among pretty high-level civil servants, a fairly serious discussion is taking place. The Ministry of Justice doesn't want to see these people in the court system, because it's expensive. And [I anticipate] the pressure will start to come from the Home Office itself, because these cuts are not sustainable in terms of maintaining these nonsensical drug laws.Isn't it weird to think that massive budget cuts could lead to the legalization of weed?
It is odd to think that austerity could lead to greater legalization, but it's not different to how consultants in the NHS deal with which cases they need to prioritize. And the way that the police will do it will be to limit the amount of time that they're spending on non-violent offenders.What sort of timeframe do you think we're looking at here?
I think we're looking at the end of cannabis prohibition in the next five to ten years.And how will austerity have impacted upon that timeframe?
I think austerity will probably take five years off—five years off the lifetime of the prohibition of weed.Let's wait and see. Thanks, Danny.Follow Sirin Kale on Twitter.