Read: Remembering John Barron, Donald Trump's 'Spokesman' Alter EgoThe Washington Post has obtained audio that makes a convincing case that Donald Trump used to pull some low-rent Ben Franklin shit, adopting fictional personas to brag about his own greatness.In the 1980s and 90s, during times when things were looking pretty bad for Trump's business, the real estate mogul would periodically pose as a "publicist" or "spokesman," ringing up members of the New York City press under a pseudonym to say that actually, Trump was doing just fine, and is beautiful and just the best. The name he used most often was "John Barron" (sometimes spelled "Baron"), but he also went by the name "John Miller."As VICE wrote last year in an article remembering Trump's alter-ego, the businessman admitted in court in 1990 that "he and one of his assistants had used the name 'John Barron' in business matters." But the audio from the Washington Post is the first time the general public has been able to hear the fictional persona in action.In the clip, "John Miller" is caught speaking with People magazine reporter Sue Carswell. As he drones on and on about how Trump is a man with many options, who receives multiple calls a day from actresses and models begging for dates—including Madonna—it certainly sounds like the Big Orange Menace himself, in both subject matter and speech patterns.In an appearance on the Today show Friday, Trump claimed that the voice in the recording is not him—but the guy's relationship with truth is tenuous at best. Give it a listen above and judge for yourself.Thumbnail by Evan Guest via Flickr.