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Julie: Media discrimination against trans people goes back years. A lot of people are very upset. This is the tip of the iceberg. It seems that now that the gay community has rights, it's: “Let’s pick on the trans people.”If this is just the tip of the iceberg, what was it about this particular iceberg tip that brought you out in protest?
I was just astounded that someone had the audacity to write something so hateful. I’ve been beaten up because of what I am. I’ve been continually assaulted for about 13 years and I just want the hate to stop. There’s no need for it. Like, “dicks in chick’s clothing” – I’m sorry, but 13 years ago I stopped being a guy, full time. I have no penis. Technically, am I a man? No, I’m not.What's the big deal if someone writes something nasty in a newspaper?
What we’re worried about is that this will incite violence against us. Some bully boys will use it as their excuse and I’ll suffer another beating.

Alexander: It’s just filth. It’s a string of insults. There’s nothing else there. We’re people the same as anyone else. It would have been unsurprising if it was in the Mail because we expect that from them but the Guardian is supposed to be a little more open minded and intelligent.
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Stupid.

Lisa: Twenty years ago I was [banned](http:// http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sex-swap+pub+ban+payout.-a061902356) from pubs for being trans. I took it to court and got a grand out of it, but I’m still banned. I’ve been attacked on the street, physically. There’s been a slight relaxation in attitude since then.So things have got better?
Yeah, I can work now. I was hounded out of my job in 2000 for being trans, whereas now I’ve got employment.

Guardian employee: Hate speech should never be out there. Transgender people have a right to be talked about respectfully because hate speech gets engendered and puts ideas in people’s heads. It was an Observer piece, not a Guardian piece, by the way.Yeah, yeah. Huge difference.
I agree with everyone, the words that Julie Burchill used were disgusting. We’re not all bastards. I’m only on work experience.If, as a workie, you got given a dictaphone with an interview Julie Burchill had done and were told to transcribe it, would you do it?
I would do it, yeah.For shame.

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No. It was a throwaway comment made out of ignorance, not prejudice. Her actions that followed left a lot to be desired. But then Julie Burchill ramping it up afterwards was just provocation. It was disgusting.What do you make of the accusations of bullying?
She bought it on herself. She could have backed down and apologised. She chose to fight fire with fire. There’s freedom of speech but this was hate speech. It crossed a line.How about you, Sophia?
Sophia: I believe in free speech. I’ve written articles in defence of the Westboro Baptist Church even though I’m absolutely appalled by the crap that they come out with. They have the right to freedom of speech but people have the right to counter picket.But she had a right to say it in the first place?
Yes, just as I have a right to call her vile for doing so. Freedom of speech is one of the most valuable rights we have. It’s the right to say: “I’m not going to take this shit.”Follow Simon (@SimonChilds13) and Jake (@Jake_Photo) on Twitter.More gender bending:The VICE Guide to Being TransShould Transgender Beauty Pageants Stop Existing?One of the GirlsLesbians No Longer: A Transgender Trip Into Heteronormality