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Lori Ann Cole: It was a series of fortuitous incidents that led to us getting hired at Sierra, one of them was the fact that Sierra had published previous Ultima games and Lord British (moniker of Ultima series creator Richard Garriott) decided to take them away. And Ken Williams (co-founder of Sierra) really wanted to have an RPG.Corey Cole: He said, "OK, Sierra owns the entire adventure game market," which it did at the time, "but there's this other roleplaying game market and we don't own that yet, and we'd like to." So he was trying to make the same amount of splash with roleplaying games that they had with adventure games.I've read somewhere that your experience with Dungeons & Dragons, the tabletop roleplaying game, helped you land the job at Sierra. Is that true?
Corey: We had a friend who we knew through science fiction conventions, and she was a contractor for Sierra. She did all the animation for Kings Quest 4, and she was in our meetings with Ken [Williams] and he had said, "We want to find a top-level, prize-winning, tournament-level dungeon master to write these games for us." Which was a completely ridiculous phrase to say. But she'd played in D&D games with us, and we'd had another roleplaying game system we'd invented, that was skill-based, rather than the level-based advancement of D&D. And that got us as far as the phone call.
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Corey: We had an interesting challenge; they were looking for a roleplaying game, they didn't want an adventure game from us. But the Sierra tools were specifically designed for adventure games. And they were really, really good for making Sierra-style graphical games, but they weren't designed for doing math, and moving square by square. It was designed for scenes, for "rooms." Each room of the game, whether it was indoor or outdoor, it was called a room.So given these tools, what kind of roleplaying game could we make? Our tabletop games were always about actual roleplaying. Each character had a persona, and you were visiting caverns and all that stuff. And we thought OK, that we can do. So it looks like an adventure game, but it plays like a roleplaying game.The thrust of this article is how the slowed-down pace of the game, the way it asked players to really take their time, was a huge influence on me. I'd never come across a game that wasn't forcing you through from one platform to the next. Can you tell me about that process?
Lori: The only way we had to create this sense of continuity and sequence was the idea that makes an RPG feel right, which is there are areas that you can't go to only because you can't deal with them. You're not strong enough to handle them. So that became the gating mechanism of the game.
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Corey: We went through many different iterations of what this game should be. First we tried building a text-based game, and we thought that wasn't good enough. And then we considered a web-based with clickable hyperlinks, and that wasn't good enough, and it turns out what Sierra was doing originally was pretty close to good enough! But we are taking advantage of having 3D space.Lori: The reason we went 3D is that we really did want to open up the world. Even with Quest for Glory it was all about immersion and making sure that the user interface was invisible and easy to not think about. We want you to be there in that game as part of that world, as part of that character.So much for retirement, then?
Corey: We actually retired about ten years ago, around 2005, when game companies decided they all wanted 20-somethings and we couldn't get jobs in the game industry. And essentially this game pulled us out of retirement.Lori: It isn't Quest for Glory, and yet it is. What we did was take the best parts, the parts that fans loved about Quest for Glory, and created something really different.Corey and Lori Ann Cole, now of Transolar Games, are currently hard at work bringing the successfully funded Hero-U to life.Follow Giaco Furino on Twitter.