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Kurt Vile: Yeah, I think it's a polished version of what I started doing, just because I bounced around a lot before. I think it's a more compact, or mature, mixture of folk and electric combined. But yeah, I would say… you're right. [ Laughs]I grew up outside of Philly, before living in Fishtown [a Philadelphia neighborhood] for almost a decade. Now that I've moved away, I'm struck with nostalgia for the city. Do you miss it when you're gone? Is there somewhere you'd rather live?
I don't miss it when I'm gone because I come back. I live there. I have a house there, a family. It's nice to come back to. Maybe I would miss it if I moved away and cut ties.
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You're often talked about as a Philly musician, as if the word "Philly" somehow intrinsically describes you. Do you still strongly identify with the city?Without even thinking about it, I called myself 'Philly's Constant Hitmaker' when I first got a MySpace, before I had any real hits. —Kurt Vile
I think that I identify with Philadelphia for a lot of reasons. Without even thinking about it, I called myself "Philly's Constant Hitmaker" when I first got a MySpace, before I had any real hits. It was kind of just a funny slogan, basically lifted from the Rolling Stones' first album England's Newest Hit Makers . So I put Philly on the map with myself right away. I think it's a unique enough scenario where it's not quite New York or LA.Anybody that's from somewhere that's made it in music outside of New York or LA, if it's a unique enough place they'll always say: "Dude's from Minnesota!" Or wherever, you know? So that's how I got the Philly connection. And I think also that Philly has a weird enough accent and enough of a ball-buster [sense of] humor. I have a combination of all those things, but not too much of any of them. I don't know. Philly keeps getting thrown back at me, but that's where I live. So I'm proud to represent.That feels super-Philly to call yourself "Philly's Constant Hitmaker" before you've put anything out.
Yeah, exactly. I had to do it. I had to own it before someone else did.
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Well, I can be chill. That's a side of me that I like. But then, I can also be not so chill. I can get a little stressed out. But I think when I tap into my persona—which is sort of like my character—once I get onstage or behind a microphone and I'm really feeling it, I don't know if it's exactly that chill guy that comes out. But it's a certain persona, sure.Even if it is from tapping into a persona, it comes off as pretty natural.
It's fun to create some kind of mythology, some kind of character. But also it's not as extreme as Keith Richards or something. So that's a plus for me. It would be hard to live up to that level all the time. I mean, he is that way. But even so, I'm sure even if you didn't want to, you'd still have to fall into those dangerous ways. I'm not saying I'm any saint. I like that side of rock 'n' roll, and that can serve as the inspiration for myth-making.
When I was living in the city, there was still a mythology around you. It was kind of like a Sasquatch sighting among my friends. They'd be like, "Oh, Kurt was at this show…" Is that weird for you to hear?You know that early to mid-20s cockiness? I feel like that went all the way through to my early 30s. —Kurt Vile
I walk around a lot. People come up to me and say hi, but not that often. I mean, I get it plenty often, but sometimes I wish they'd come up to me more! I mean, I'm just a regular guy. I guess I'd be the same way if I was walking around and saw someone I was a fan of. I'd be like, "Oh man, I just saw so-and-so." But, na man, just come and say hi.
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[Laughs] Oh no, maybe I'm half-kidding! Don't always say hi. Just once in a while.With the new work, when I listen I hear a sentiment creeping through that's kind of like, "You wouldn't want my job." Am I off base on that?
You are a little off base. I'm not saying, "You wouldn't want it." But, you know, the whole idea of satire is whatever you're saying, the opposite is true. By doing that, I'm also saying that I love my life at the same time. So sometimes it's both sides of the statement. I like the ups and downs simultaneously—that's what I'm all about. Two much of either one is annoying, but that's the ups and downs of life, you know?When you sing lyrics like "making music is easy," even if that's satire, it must feel nice to be confident in your work and your abilities.
That line—"making music is easy, watch me" from my last record—I was feeling really confident back then. And I think I'm a better musician now, but I had a different kind of confidence then. That was me then saying, "I'm feeling it. And yes I'm being charmingly cocky, but I love music."I wouldn't say I have the same confidence now, but at the same time I feel like I do play music better if I can tap into this zone. It gets more real if I can kinda get lost. But I feel like that was the very last of my 20s. You know that early to mid-20s cockiness? I feel like that went all the way through to my early 30s.
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It's tricky, you know? I get attached to a record. I build it up in my head, but you can't just do karaoke every night. I feel like you also can't completely disregard the record, which I like to do. I'm trying to reach something in between.Finally, this is a totally stereotypical interview question, but what are you listening to right now?
I was listening to a ton of stuff that I'm not really listening to anymore. What I kept telling people I was listening to was, like, Pharoah Sanders, Alice Coltrane, John Coltrane, Spiritual-era Coltrane. So that's what I was saying, and before that it was like Jon Fine, Randy Newman.Of newer music, lately I've been listening to Grouper. I've been a fan for a while, but I'm going back to her lately. I [also] like a lot of Courtney Barnett. I love that song " Depreston." I've been playing it over and over again.Follow Giaco on Twitter.B'lieve I'm Goin Down… comes out Friday, September 25 from Matador Records.