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Peter Beste: It's been really long. I started shooting in 2004 and have been planning it since about 2000. The book was originally going to come out a few years ago, but there were a variety of hold-ups with the publishing process. Having to hold off allowed us more time to get deeper into the community, and in retrospect I'm really glad that we did have that extra time. The book would have been more surface level if we released it early, and I think this extra time allowed us to get much deeper into the topics and release a truly unique book.

That was a small factor, but I was really fortunate because I was immediately introduced to the right folks back in 2004, like Dope E from the Terrorists, K-Rino and members of Street Military. These guys have immense respect in the 'hood and were willing to bring me around, introduce me to people and essentially vouch for me.
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As the project progressed we expanded our concept. It became less about who’s who in Houston rap, and more about an anthropological picture of an important time and place in American history. We got into more juicy topics, like spirituality, the deliberate targeting of the 'hood by government entities, gentrification and lots of personal stuff.

It was organic. I grew up on a lot of this Houston rap. In the early 90s I was mystified and really blown away by early Rap-A-Lot artists, like the Geto Boys, Ganxsta N-I-P and stuff like that. Years later, getting into photography, it seemed like a perfect project for me, so I decided to track down these more obscure characters and try to photograph them in their personal environments. The focus was initially on that, but over time – as I got to know these guys better – we started asking the right questions and steering away from the stereotypes and typical bullshit that is covered in mainstream rap media.I mean, that stuff is in the book: women, cars and over-the-top materialism – there's no doubt that's a part of the community. But it goes so much deeper than that. But, as we all know, the media primarily focuses on those aspects. We ended up making it more of a sociological or anthropological study of this rich Southern culture.
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Yeah, that DIY ethic gives me enormous respect for them. I come from a punk rock background, so it’s something I really admire and connect with.You worked shooting grime MCs and the grime scene in London in its heyday, or at least before it gained any real mainstream weight. Did you feel there are similarities between these two scenes? The somewhat overlooked, insular, commercially unviable scenes making do themselves and building an industry?
Well, I was only working on the grime stuff for a comparatively short time, but yes. It was back in 2005 in London, and I didn’t get nearly as deep into that community as I did in Houston, but I was attracted by their similar ethic and ability to make something unique while telling you stories about where they're from and what they have to go through. One big similarity grime has to Houston rap is that it was produced and promoted within the community with this internal support network of the pirate radio stations and so on – the way DJ Screw made his tapes and the way that spread and multiplied. That DIY Screw network is in some ways comparable to the pirate radio stations of London grime, where they spread their music on their own terms with little outside influence or support.
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Ironically, I grew up outside of Houston and I found that I fitted in more – at least physically – halfway around the world in Norway than I did in my own backyard in Houston. There are similarities: they're both fringe musical subcultures with their owns sets of ethics and aesthetics, and their own sets of rules. In that regard, they are similar. But of course those sets of ethics are very different. I wouldn’t lump them in together in any other ways. The problems I faced were similar, too – I had to earn the respect of both communities over time. I did this by having a humble attitude, taking some photos and coming back months later and showing them a spread in a magazine that they were receptive to. Over time, relationships grew and it snowballed from there.

One of my main goals with both projects was to show the façade the communities present and contrast it with more real and humane elements that are revealed after digging a bit deeper – whether it be metal guys in makeup or rappers in expensive cars with women and guns. For many of these guys, that is the image they project. For every 50 pictures I took like that, I can manage to get one picture with that façade down, something more real and personal.
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Most of the guys with this philosophy didn't hold our skin colour against us, because they could tell we had honest intentions and were aware of the issues they were passionate about. For example, Dope E of the Terrorists – the guy holding the gun out of the Black Panther window – turned out to be one of our best friends in the scene and opened many doors for us. I think the bottom line is their rebellion against the proverbial "white man" is not so much about skin colour, but rather it’s against the oppressive power system.
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