All photos by Leeor Wild unless otherwise noted.

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Photo by Ralph Damman
Photo by Ralph Damman
Amy Lam: Both of them are based on our real life experience and the idea of putting these experiences in a comic format. What we thought is unique about the comic format is they're pointing at things that aren't even that funny or even that remarkable. It's not really anything anyone might notice, but in our experience, in each of those instances, it felt important. So the posters are sort of memorializing that, trying to do it in a way that's a little bit funny. And the magnets that we made are cute, but not really for cute situations.
Photos by Ralph Damman
Jon McCurley: In the first comic—the one with the university professors—that actually happened two times in one week. Both of these comments were made by people who teach in universities or colleges in the states. These comments were kind of flying around and it seemed a little consistent.
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Lam: Part of the problem is if you have boards of directors that are all white, and your executive director is white, and all the staff are white, then you're not really invested in a way that will bring about real change.McCurley: This isn't in the comics, but it's in the reality that inspired it, the comic about the durian fruit. That lecturer—he's a photographer—is the expert on this part of the world, as far as the university he teaches at is concerned. He had won all three grants from that university to study in that part of the world, and his photo-book was the first ever published of work from that country. It's all the same guy; there's no opposition stopping this person from studying or going to this part of the world as often as he does and getting this reputation. And when we see him, everything he says is problematic and racist.
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Lam: Universities and all these places need people that aren't white to be in positions of decision making. Not only on the level of inclusivity, it needs to go all the way to the top. Thats a long process. Like white people being ready to give up the positions that they have, or give up the power that they have.
Lam: It's hard to make a comparison in that way. I think that in many ways it's the same. When I'm in the States and I'm at a residency and things like this are happening, it feels the same as when I'm in Toronto and I see the same thing happening. I just have the same experience anywhere I go in North America.McCurley: It's not a multicultural wonderland. I haven't lived in another country and I can't compare it, but what we can see is that it says multicultural in the marketing and advertising and then in the real experience, you run into all kinds of racism in different shades. I'm half Asian, but all of the places we travel all over the world, I've noticed people treat Amy or react to Amy in ways that they don't treat me. Thats consistent, from mean border guards in Iceland, to a five year old girl on the sidewalk yesterday. It's so unequal, the way that people will react and treat somebody who looks asian versus someone who doesn't look asian. And it happens everywhere we've gone, it's not like Canada's not like that.
