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Kiril Stepanets: I took an official tour through the zone in 2009. That was the first time I went. But it was immediately clear that those organized tours don't really offer anything—they take your money, and you don't really know where you are. I illegally entered for the first time in 2011 with a group of friends, and I never stopped going.Why do you go there?
I live next door. The drive from Kiev is about an hour and a half. Other people go to the Carpathian Mountains or the Alps to unwind; I go to Chernobyl. For a while, I worked as an official guide, but they didn't want to work with me any longer. There were so many cliques there, and people who seemed almost in love with the area—who didn't really want to share it with others. It was a weird place to work. That's why I decided to take people there illegally.
We go to the checkpoint by car or bus, and then we enter through one of the illegal entry points. Once we're in, we can go anywhere. You'll need to walk a couple of days to get to Pripyat—the big city in the area. It takes less time to get to the nearby villages. When I go by myself, I like walking around in places where no one has set foot in for thirty years. There's a lot of that, but there's also a lot of tourism. On my way to Pripyat the other day, I passed about forty people on the road.
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Not anymore, because if I get caught, my instruments are confiscated, and they're expensive. But I know where I'm going, so I don't need them now.
Yes, I've been caught a couple of times. Nothing much happens: They check your things, they file a case, it goes to court, and you'll eventually get a small fine. That's only if you walk around to take a look. It's different when you steal stuff from the area, like iron or timber. Apparently, smugglers can make a killing, but I stay out of that.What kind of people do you take on your trips?
Anyone, really: corporate types who are looking for some excitement, or journalists looking for a good shot. Or people just curious to see the Chernobyl they've heard about for so many years. Of course, ninety percent of the people go to stand on a building in Pripyat at sunset and get drunk overlooking the dead city.
We have some apartments we stay in, in Pripyat and in the smaller villages. There's some supplies there, and some furniture to collapse on after having walked around for twenty-five miles.How many stalkers are there?
I have no idea. It used to be about fifteen people. Everybody knew one another. Now it's much more than that, and there's a lot of rivalry too. This other guy knows the places I stay at when I'm here. He'll break the windows of those places and piss on my bed when I'm not there. Or he spies on me. In general, the zone tends to draw some mentally unstable characters.
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Oh sure, so many of them. I met a girl from Moscow in Pripyat who had illegally entered as well, and I started dating her. We used to go there together. I called it a radioactive relationship. We've split up now, though.
One of my best friends from Russia went there in the winter, got drunk, and fell asleep on a building. His feet were wet, and in the morning, he couldn't feel them any more. He dragged himself to the main road, called the police, and gave himself up. Eventually he lost the toes on both feet.He got overly confident?
Yes, but he was very experienced in Chernobyl. That's not very surprising, though: It's usually the more experienced ones that get in trouble, not the newbies.