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Some Rich Guy Paid $84,000 for Webcam Shows He Never Watched

If you're going to pay that kind of loot to look at boobs on a computer, you might as well cash in on it.

by Chris Nieratko
Jun 6 2014, 6:57pm

I thought I'd heard of every fetish known to man. During my decade-long stint at the British fetish magazine Bizarre, I saw shaven Barbie doll heads up asses, stretched out pee-holes, people stomping on scrotums, tarantula-tickling, and just about anything else a person might enjoy doing to get their rocks off. Then, last week, I heard about an act of financial domination so exorbitant that it almost warranted its own genre of kink.

Financial domination is nothing new. The idea is simple and typically involves very rich men showering women with money for little in return. The incident in question, however, involved close to $100,000, and the buyer got absolutely nothing out of it. It happened on Kink.com, a website that specializes in all things fetish and regularly auctions off one-hour private cam sessions with two of its most popular and renowned doms, Maitresse Madeline and Lorelei Lee. At a recent auction, the bidding for both Madeline and Lorelei attracted a number of (I'm assuming) one-percenters, who quickly got into a bidding war, upping the cost of the cam shows by thousands at a time. When the dust had settled, both girls had earned $42,000 for a one-hour show. I believe it's an unprecedented amount for a cam show, and I have never been more proud of two girls in my life.

But here's the kicker: The same guy won both auctions—paying $84,000 in all—and has never asked for his videos. It's so fucked. As someone who has always dreamed of being financially dominated, I decided to interview Lorelei and Madelineto find out what it feels like to make $42,000 for doing absolutely nothing.

VICE: What is Kink Bitches?
Lorelei Lee: Kink Bitches is mine and Madeline's platform to sell porn in sort of a new way. We've both been working in the industry for many years. For me it's been 14, and Madeline has nine under her belt, which, in porn years, is about 100. We both have this extensive knowledge of and interest in fetishes and BDSM, and working at Kink we have a platform with a huge audience. So many of the things we've done in the past, like selling panties and doing webcam shows, we're now doing in a more exclusive and high-end way.

Maitresse Madeline. Photo courtesy Kink.com.

Were you shocked when you heard the final amount of the winning webcam bid?
Maitresse Madeline: I'm not going to lie; it was an incredible moment. It was quite an accomplishment thinking back to my early webcamming days. But taking into consideration the experience I have with financial domination and my deep understanding of the idiosyncrasies of the fetish, I'm not shocked at all.

LL: I was very excited watching the bids increase, but it makes sense to me. Our culture is constantly pushing toward the individualized. Every company that markets to you is trying to tell you: "This is a product made for only you!" That's what a webcam show is—it's only for you, specifically tailored to you.

At $42,000 am I allowed to point a video camera at my computer screen and record it for myself?
No. It's an exclusive, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

What a bargain! Did you already make the one-hour video? How crazy did it get?
He never asked for the show. He may decide at some point to ask for that, but he hasn't yet. So basically he just gave us the money.

And the same guy won both auctions, correct?
Yes. There were other people in the running. There's a large audience out there for this idea of financial domination by paying a higher and higher price. It's a little bit like gambling.

He's the wolf of whore street.
MM: I'm not going to presume that I know the psychology behind why this particular person decided to pay for the show and never actually request it. In general, getting off on giving a woman large sums of money is an age-old fetish. Who doesn't like the feeling of slipping cash into a stripper's panties? Our auctions are the same idea, just on a larger scale and with a bigger payoff on both ends.

LL: I understand the psychology of this from our perspective. I have worked as a stripper, a pro dom, and in porn, and in all of those avenues there's something very exciting about the receiving of cash. I think people even get it from waiting tables. Cash turns you on. It's not just the amount of money—it's the physical feeling and texture and smell... all of that.

Lorelei Lee

But it's so disgusting and dirty!
Yes! It's so dirty; I love that! One of the most exciting things I've ever done with cash was to jerk off at a bachelor party over an increasingly higher pile of cash. Just watching it pile up was bringing me closer to orgasm. Some people enjoy giving their money away to a specific person. To some people that's humiliating. They're not worth anything, and they have to give everything that they have to a woman who is a goddess. But then there's also the opposite feeling, which is one of power—if you have the most money to spend you have the biggest dick.

Let me ask you: Is the winner of the first two auctions Donald Sterling?
I'll never tell.

Was there any communication with him after he won? Was it naughty?
There was an email exchange, and he was very respectful. He seems charming.

There's no meeting in person, right?
Correct. This is only a cam show.

How extreme would the cam show be?
It would be within our personal limits. I have things that I would never do, like scat, bestiality, and extreme age play—pretending to be an extremely young person. But the things I'm willing to do I would do in this show, with the caveat that this is a one-person show.

And, just to be clear, there's no sex? For $42,000?
It depends on your version of sex, but no, we will never touch each other.

What type of guy can afford that kind of money?
MM: This particular gentleman is from Australia, and in the few interactions I had with him, he was kind and charming.

The armory, where the magic happens. Photo courtesy Kink.com

What's the most you've been paid for a scene in a porno?
LL: I'd have to say somewhere around $3,000.

Are you annoyed at all the times you put in a day's worth of work for $3,000 when now you're making $42K for doing nothing?
I'm actually not. Here's the thing: I didn't do nothing for that $42,000. I worked 14 years for that $42,000.

What did you do with your windfall?
We spread it on the ground and rolled around in it. We put $84,000 on the ground and played in it to celebrate. I also spent some money on champagne and lip gloss! Two of my favorite things. And then I put some in my 401(k).

MM: I save and invest my money. Longer-term goals are to own a beautiful house of domination unlike anything that is available today. A place where the women are empowered to run their own business and have multiple avenues for revenue streams under one umbrella. I'd like to take my years of knowledge and give back and help other women create a brand for themselves and run profitable businesses.

What are some of the more interesting and unique fetishes you've encountered?
LL: I am fascinating by people's fetishes, no matter what they are. It's so thrilling to me to hear about them and experience them. Something pretty straightforward is cross-dressing, and yet when you do it right and really make it happen for the person, dressing them up and telling them what a beautiful slut they are, it is the most glorious moment. There are all kinds of other ones that are less common. I had a client who wanted me to spit yogurt into his mouth, and he would say, "Thank you for the gift." I had another client, who was one of my favorites, who had a newspaper fetish. He would bring a bag of folded up papers with him and there were a series of things we would do with them, like press them against his face or cover him entirely in them and I'd step on him.

MM: I used to have a customer who would pay to simply stare at my empty worn shoes. I wouldn't be on camera, and to him that was the ultimate humiliation, which was his biggest turn on. I also had a man who would pay me $1,000 for a minute of humiliation. He wanted me to call him on the phone and threaten to tell his wife about the money, then hang up after one minute.

Madeline, you have more camming experience than Lorelei. What do you enjoy about the job?
I got into camming in my very early 20s as a way to pay for dental-hygienist school. It ended up being very lucrative. I was very successful at it and was able to make a six-figure income by camming four nights a week from my home office. As I've progressed in my career, camming is now saved for these special-auction-type occasions. It's always fun to go back and do it. I sometimes miss the hustle of camming. I miss the intimate interactions I had with fans and customers.

If you happen to have tens of thousands of dollars just burning a hole in your pocket, first of all, fuck you. But also, there's an auction going on now through June 10.

Follow @DivineBitches, @MaitresseM, and @MissLoreleiLee.

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